Kronos 61 vs the Motif XF7- From someone new to workstations

[michelkeijzers]

Sorry if I'm sidetracking a bit here, not my intention to highjack the thread. My apologies.

Wow, this is really puzzling to say the least.

The only area I was disapointed with is in the cx-3 department. I'm even considering getting the Xk3 at this point.

I find it's missing the "girth" of a real hammond, big time. Specially that "growling" sound on slides.

Perhaps I should find some nice custom made sounds cause the one supplied are very thin for my own taste.

What am I missing here?

I have tweaked a bit on the sounds but not much, depending on if I need the growl I add a bit more low eq (or less eq if I play chords lower).

Ok, perhaps I understood the wrong way.

I've been reading alot about the xk series, comparing, reviews, etc...
because I use organ sounds alot and I haven't found anything satisfying so far. So basically I'm looking into getting one.

I know for a fact that the Korg CX-3 itself is ok but it's an imitation of the Hammond XK's. Even the keybed on the xk series is for hammond style playing.

I'm not trying to argue here, but your comment sort of put me in doubt, because if the Kronos CX-3 engine is a complete replacement for the xk3, I'm in big trouble, since I can't get anything out of the Kronos that's remotely close to the real deal.

It might be that some people think a real Hammond is better than the CX3 in the Kronos, however for me it is 'good enough'. I didn't had the XK2 while having my Kronos so I couldn't do a one to one comparison. I only know in a full band context it is (more than) convincing enough.

About the keys: the Kronos (61 at least) does not have waterfall keys, however I still have no problems with moving my hands over octaves, but it is 'smoother' on a Hammond keybed which has more squared keys.

[Dniss]

the Kronos (61 at least) does not have waterfall keys, however I still have no problems with moving my hands over octaves, but it is 'smoother' on a Hammond keybed which has more squared keys.

Ok that's what it's called. I have the 73, but I could use my novation controller.

We do mostly covers, for most music the cx3 engine is adequate, but for many others (like Deep Purple) I find it's missing many sound signature.

Thanks for your input man!

[jimknopf]

Dniss,
download the Daniel Geist B3 Organ soud from here:
http://korgpatches.com/patches/kronos/

Have a look at the effects routing: it uses IFX instead of the internal CX3 Leslie/Overdrive (the CX3 overdrive does not sound good at all):
Take this effect routing for your own DeepPurple Drawbar settings.
There should be no problem getting much closer to what you want than with the internal CX3 effects.

[Dniss]

Dniss,
download the Daniel Geist B3 Organ soud from here:
http://korgpatches.com/patches/kronos/

Have a look at the effects routing: it uses IFX instead of the internal CX3 Leslie/Overdrive (the CX3 overdrive does not sound good at all):
Take this effect routing for your own DeepPurple Drawbar settings.
There should be no problem getting much closer to what you want than with the internal CX3 effects.

Thanks for a great input!

I will check it out. Perhaps even learn a thing or two along the way.

[michelkeijzers]

It also seems that if you need more growl/distortion whatsoever, don't use the 'overdrive' in the cx3, but use one of the IFX effects and route the organ through that.

[Dniss]

Many thanks guys, much appreciated!

Yeah this is more like it.

lol

Maybe there's something to be done afterall. I'm a happy camper.