What are the MIDI capabilities of the new electribe?

tonalVoltage · Post by **tonalVoltage** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:55 pm

I'm pretty sure it can send and receive clock signals, but can it also control the notes of external sound modules? Ex/ have a part on the electribe with a level of 0 but have it send the notes of the part to MIDI.

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:01 pm

SadPaper · Post by **SadPaper** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:56 pm

I'm beginning to think I'm going mad. I just want to sync a Microbrute with the clock of the Electribe:

[ microbrute ]+-midi in---------midi out-+[ Electribe ]

On the Electribe I have:

Clock mode: internal
Global MIDI Ch: 01
MIDI Receive Filter: Off
MIDI Send Filter: Off

I've tried three different MIDI cables, and both of the supplied MIDI adapters with the Electribe. Nothing works. I've tried various sockets on the back of the Electribe as well.

If I switch the cable to my EMX-1, the Microbrute syncs immediately.

I'm overlooking something really simple, aren't I?

Edit: I can get it to receive and send sync just fine over USB with Ableton.

tonalVoltage · Post by **tonalVoltage** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:34 pm

I also have a microbrute and it seems to sync fine with the midi cable. The only other thing I can think of to try is to set the microbrute's midi input channel to 01 using the free firmware software. I think by default it's set to 16.

SadPaper · Post by **SadPaper** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:44 pm

tonalVoltage wrote:I also have a microbrute and it seems to sync fine with the midi cable. The only other thing I can think of to try is to set the microbrute's midi input channel to 01 using the free firmware software. I think by default it's set to 16.

Thanks.

I've spent a couple of hours trying to get it to sync with various devices.

Electribe (master) -> Microbrute (slave): no
Electribe (master) -> EMX-1 (slave): no
EMX-1 (master) -> Electribe (slave): no
EMX-1 (master) -> Microbrute (slave): yes

Electribe (master) -> Ableton (slave): no
Ableton (master) -> Electribe (slave): no
Ableton (master) USB -> Electribe (slave): yes
Electribe (master) USB -> Ableton (slave): yes

I've also hooked the Electribe up to my audio interface MIDI IN and fired up MIDI-OX to see what's going along the wire, and it sees nothing.

I'm beginning to wonder whether the MIDI IN/OUT interfaces on my Electribe are faulty, or whether it's a "feature" of v1.05 software. If I could get the 1.05 software image again, I would consider downgrading to 1.03 to see if the problem was still there.

Poumtschak · Post by **Poumtschak** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:26 pm

SadPaper wrote:I've also hooked the Electribe up to my audio interface MIDI IN and fired up MIDI-OX to see what's going along the wire, and it sees nothing

With the same settings in Global Parameters as yours, mine (1.03) is sending MIDI Clock ticks all right, even when the sequencer is off.
Is your unit connected both with USB and MIDI?
Mine uses MIDI DIN only.
Did you disable the MIDI real time events filter in MIDI-OX?

FWIW, I had a similar problem with my Eventide Space: it sends and receives MIDI clock on MIDI DIN only and if only USB is... unplugged.
USB supersedes classic serial MIDI these days.

Keep us posted.

Re-Member · Post by **Re-Member** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:46 pm

Poumtschak wrote:FWIW, I had a similar problem with my Eventide Space: it sends and receives MIDI clock on MIDI DIN only and if only USB is... unplugged.

This is a problem I've had with lots of different gear. If a device is connected to a computer directly through a USB port and receives any kind of tempo information, it completely disables the MIDI Out clock signals. You can only use MIDI or USB, but not both together for some reason.

To fix this, you need to avoid using that USB port and get a USB-to-MIDI adapter to connect the Electribe to a computer via MIDI IN/OUT instead. From there, use standard MIDI cables to carry the data chain to other gear.

Steinberger · Post by **Steinberger** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:28 pm

Not to splinter the conversation but I'm starting to wonder if there is a firmware issue in regard to clock sync. I have almost the opposite issue where over USB it receives everything but transmits everything except clock sync. My problem is specific to the iConnectMIDI4+ but works fine over Din. It also works with every other USB or Din setup I can think of. I have a ticket open with iConnect but based on the captures I've done the Electribe2 just decides it's not going to send clock data when connected to certain devices.

My thread http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=95397

faolitarna · Post by **faolitarna** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:50 pm

This maschine is totally crap or I don't understand it completlty?

I try to sync Traktor (on Mac) with my electribe. I use midi out on my audio interface to send midi clock to electribe as a slave - won't work. It just don't start when I hit play (maybe it needs some "start" infromation? Not only clock?)

On the same time syncing with Eventide Timefactor as a slave works well.

So I tried to set Electribe as master and it doesn't send ANY midi clock on ANY channel.

I have 1.03 firmware & tried the same settings as You. What's wrong with this device? Anybody can help me?

SadPaper · Post by **SadPaper** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:15 am

faolitarna wrote:(about MIDI problems)

Just to check I understand correctly:

[ Traktor (on Mac)]-USB--Audio Interface-MIDI OUT----cable----MIDI IN-[ Electribe ]
Does not work.

[ Electribe ]-MIDI OUT----cable----MIDI IN-[ Eventide Timefactor ]
Works.

But you say that Electribe set as MIDI Master is not sending any clock signal? I would have thought that if the Timefactor is sync'd with the Electribe then there would be a clock sync. Can you verify this?

faolitarna · Post by **faolitarna** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:08 am

Yes, connections beetween Traktor and Electribe looks like You present it. And I mean, Eventide is sync'd with Traktor (so I'm sure I configured midi interface correctly).

With Electribe as a master, either Traktor nor Eventide don't recive any signal. I also tried different cables.

So:

[ Electribe ]-MIDI OUT----cable----MIDI IN-[ Eventide Timefactor ]

Don't works

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:38 pm

Might be something wrong with your unit then, I've used the MIDI out on mine to sync my Timeline and it worked fine. I thought I remember reading the manual the global settings are saved once you power down, so maybe try rebooting and giving it another go if you haven't yet.

faolitarna · Post by **faolitarna** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:15 pm

Thanks for help! But it still doesn't work. So maybe anyone can tell me how should it work?

If I had midi cable, which I'm sure is sending clock, I just plug it into Electribe hit play and it should start playing in time?

Now when I hit "play" button it just lights and when I hit it second time it just flashes (pause?). Maybe problem is easier? :/ And there is no audio, I'm started to thinking that it needs some midi info for "pattern start" or something like that?

Frenzies · Post by **Frenzies** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:22 pm

I sync my Microbrute just fine via Midi. This doesn't help, I know.

faolitarna · Post by **faolitarna** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:14 pm

Ok, so I tried Ableton via USB and it works perfect. Seems like I have same problems like @SadPaper but in version 1.03 :/