Korg KRONOS MOSS Board, instead of 1 we got 2 Now!

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Korg KRONOS MOSS Board, instead of 1 we got 2 Now!

Post by BasariStudios »

Yes, you can run 2 MOSS Boards next to each other, in an Initialized EXi
Program...you can have 2 AL-1 or MOD-7 which what the MOSS exactly was.
I had a friend's Triton Extreme with MOSS today all day just to confirm my self.
Sounds are totally replicable by programming (which i did) but in here is a way
different story...compared to a Triton plus this can run 2 of Those.
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Post by McHale »

I'm not even sure where to start on this one...

I'll let the MOSS purists start and I'll add as necessary. :)
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Post by BasariStudios »

Now if we gonna discuss what was Warm and whats Cold and what kind of
Outputs Triton or Z1 had its a different story, i am talking strictly about
algorightms and parameters...it is exactly as it is but doubbled. As for MOSS
Board purists i spent most of my music career working ONLY and solely with
Prophecy and MOSS Board, didnt spend much time with Z1 itself. And i dont
mean WORKING as playing live but STRICTLY programming, never ever have
i played LIVE with a MOSS Board od Prophecy.
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Post by McHale »

No, I was referring to the fact that the KRONOS doesn't contain everything that the MOSS board contained. Not everything from the MOSS card is modeled in the KRONOS.
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Post by BasariStudios »

As far i can see there is no Bowed and Brass Model, now, if you are talking
about the Piano and Organ and few other Models they are already in the EXis.
Brass or Organ or Piano e tc...But as far as Analog Models, VPM and everything
else from MOD-7 that was on MOSS is there.
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Post by Mike Conway »

You're both right. :D

McHale wrote:I'll let the MOSS purists start and I'll add as necessary. :)
According to Dan:

MOSS was an offshoot of the algorithms from the original OASYS project.

1. standard analog
5. ring modulation
6. cross modulation
7. sync modulation

All of these are done simultaneously, and much better I might add, in the AL-1.


2. comb filter
12. plucked string model

These are covered (and much more) by the STR-1.


3. vpm

This is covered (and much more) by the MOD-7.


8. organ model

This is covered (and much more) by the CX-3.


9. EP model (no samples)

This is covered by the EP-1 - which, btw, uses synthesis - not just sample playback.


4. resonance
10. brass model
11. reed model
13. bowed string model

These last four techniques are not included in the KRONOS.
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Post by billysynth1 »

I think there is meant to be a modelled vocoder of some sort?

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Post by Mike Conway »

billysynth1 wrote:I think there is meant to be a modelled vocoder of some sort?
Yes, vocal models were part of the OASYS PCI card algorithms.

I was referencing the original MOSS models based on the Z1, which were used on the MOSS card for Trinity, Triton, KARMA.
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Post by EvilDragon »

It still doesn't have the MAGIC of MOSS. :)
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Post by EXer »

You cannot have the equivalent of a MOSS board on the Kronos.

The Kronos doesn't have physicall modelling of brass and reed instruments.
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Post by Timo »

I bet the filters don't sound similar. I much prefer the Moss' filters over even the Radias filters for example. Moss filters have a lot more beef to them.

Regards the synthesis models, the biggie the Kronos lacks over Moss is the Brass modelling. The brass models on the Moss are superb.

Still no flexible sub-osc like the Moss, either. You wouldn't believe how much of a difference that little sub (effectively a third osc) made.

The Bowed synthesis I could, personally, live without.

Those aside, the Kronos can do the rest, parameter wise. We thrashed all this out a long time ago, just after NAMM with Dan, I think.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... c&start=45

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 855#368855
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Post by soundsailer »

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Regards the synthesis models, the biggie the Kronos lacks over Moss is the Brass modelling. The brass models on the Moss are superb.


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Dam I was wondering if the MOSS was some how built into Kronos because of the brass sounds, they are Soooooooo fine.
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Post by billysynth1 »

Perhaps Korg will release a stand alone replacement Radias, Moss, Z1 synth to counter the JP 80 - that would be awesome.

Since the Radias is discontinued, Korg dont have a synth in this line to compete with its competitors.

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Post by adeeb23 »

Why the bowed string model is not added .. come on korg ..

Do I have to take 350 Keyboards to my performances ..

No Sense ..
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Post by DennyC »

The programs should be very interesting! :) :)
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