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cello Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2152 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Which threads should I read first? |
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dhjdhj wrote: | OK --- long time Oasys owner, just ordered Kronos to use in a secondary smaller live setup. Figured I'd check out the new Kronos forums to see what's going on --- but there's just way too many posts (and yeah, this one is probably not helping too much either!) to wade through.
Any recommendations for "gotchyas", "best practices", and "best of" threads? |
There's nothing astonishly new in the Kronos when compared to the OASYS.
If you can get an OASYS to do what you want, then you can get a Kronos to do what you want _________________ Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5, |
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dhjdhj Senior Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 309
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I just got a 61. For my minirig, the goal is indeed to be easy to schlep things around. My plan is to use an Akai MPK88 (weighted) controller for piano-style playing and the Kronos for organ/synth stuff. In all cases, actual sound will be produced using both Kronos sound libraries and/or VSTs running under Max/MSP on a laptop.
Lou wrote: | Congrats on your new Kronos. (61 or 73?)
Your going to love it as much and possibly more than your Oasys.
It may not have as many bells and whistles, but there are some very useful features Korg implemented, which I'm sure you are aware of.
Also, moving forward, I think we have a much better chance at seeing Kronos advancement.. Not to mention, but "the ease of hauling it around." enjoy! |
_________________ KronosX, Eigenharp Alpha, Roland AX-1, Roland A800Pro (4), RME UCX (2), MaxMSP, soft synths from Native Instruments, AAS, Arturia, G-Force, RealLabs, Korg Legacy and others |
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Schlepping the 61 around is no problem at all. But if you are carrying the MPK88, that still no joke.. _________________ Lou |
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dhjdhj Senior Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:58 am Post subject: |
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It's all relative. This is what I have been carrying around until now!
Lou wrote: | Schlepping the 61 around is no problem at all. But if you are carrying the MPK88, that still no joke.. | [/url] _________________ KronosX, Eigenharp Alpha, Roland AX-1, Roland A800Pro (4), RME UCX (2), MaxMSP, soft synths from Native Instruments, AAS, Arturia, G-Force, RealLabs, Korg Legacy and others |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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dhjdhj wrote: | It's all relative. This is what I have been carrying around until now!
Lou wrote: | Schlepping the 61 around is no problem at all. But if you are carrying the MPK88, that still no joke.. | [/url] |
You mean for every gig you need to transport all this? Hope you have a roadie (or more). _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Once I had a Hammond Organ ... but I'm glad I don't have it anymore. Ok it sounded great (when it was not broken or behaving strangely) but you needed 4 people to carry it on stage and to transport it into the rehearsal room after the gig. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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michelkeijzers wrote: | Once I had a Hammond Organ ... but I'm glad I don't have it anymore. Ok it sounded great (when it was not broken or behaving strangely) but you needed 4 people to carry it on stage and to transport it into the rehearsal room after the gig. |
You really should only have two people carrying a Hammond, one on each end using the proper organ dollies. When you have two people on each end the weight is shifting all over the place and you can hurt your back. Of course, I was rarely successful at convincing my bandmates of this. _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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dhjdhj Senior Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I did use roadies....the problem was not really the gear itself which in theory could be setup/torn down in 1/2 hour (because the cabling system carries audio, midi, power, USB and control signals and so very easy to connect) but more because we ended up playing in places where there wasn't enough room to actually do the setup without getting in someone else's way....that ended up being the stressor for me.
michelkeijzers wrote: |
You mean for every gig you need to transport all this? Hope you have a roadie (or more). |
_________________ KronosX, Eigenharp Alpha, Roland AX-1, Roland A800Pro (4), RME UCX (2), MaxMSP, soft synths from Native Instruments, AAS, Arturia, G-Force, RealLabs, Korg Legacy and others |
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Yuma Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 659 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I visit this forum every day and read the latest posts to keep myself informed.
There's a few categories for me in which posts can be put:
• Posts with very important information. I add such posts to my bookmarks in my browser (I put them in a dedicated Kronos folder);
• Posts with questions. If I have the feeling I can answer those questions or find the answer quickly myself, then I will do so. Not only can I potentially make some other forum user happy, I learn new stuff myself as well in the process;
• Posts with general information. I just read them;
• Posts with verbal fights, lots of off topic stuff, or stuff that doesn't interest me at all. I click them once to mark them as "read" in my browser, but I don't really read them.
What helped me the first day I had the Kronos, was watching the instruction video's on the DVD's that come with the Kronos. _________________ || My music ■■ How to embed Youtube and Soundcloud on this forum ||
|| Korg Kronos 61 (with upgrade kit) ■■ Korg PadKontrol ■■ Cubase 5 || |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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DennyC wrote: | Well there you go, now you've done it. Obviously you have read the fan post. Avoid the posts of someone called "sparkie" as you will want to get a second trust deed on your house to immediately purchase a Jupiter 80 and donate your Kronos to charity. |
Do I hear the word "Jupiter 80" mentioned? Some troll rang my bell.... |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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phattbuzz wrote: | michelkeijzers wrote: | Once I had a Hammond Organ ... but I'm glad I don't have it anymore. Ok it sounded great (when it was not broken or behaving strangely) but you needed 4 people to carry it on stage and to transport it into the rehearsal room after the gig. |
You really should only have two people carrying a Hammond, one on each end using the proper organ dollies. When you have two people on each end the weight is shifting all over the place and you can hurt your back. Of course, I was rarely successful at convincing my bandmates of this. |
We didn't have an organ dollie (have to look how it looks like) so handling it was quite difficult. Also lifting it on stages etc (wonder if two people would be enough in such cases).
We don't have many gigs but it seems for bands having more gigs such a dollie would be a necessity. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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michelkeijzers wrote: | We didn't have an organ dollie (have to look how it looks like) so handling it was quite difficult. Also lifting it on stages etc (wonder if two people would be enough in such cases).
We don't have many gigs but it seems for bands having more gigs such a dollie would be a necessity. |
These are the dollies I use. _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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Randelph Platinum Member
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 604 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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There are some particularly adept users like Ron F and Busch that are quite generous in their sharing of insights and technical info; Busch even has a blog with patches and thoughts http://thekronosblog.blogspot.com/; they'd be worth doing a search for. And someone else has started a patch sharing site.
I see you've got an Eigenharp. Have you learned to play it much? Am curious about its uses as a controller, being that you can wiggle each key from side to side and has very sensitive keys, its got the breath pipe, another set of keys for controller functions, etc. Have you used it as a midi controller for your keyboards, and how does it compare in expressiveness to using a standard keyboard? _________________ Keyboards: Kawai ES920 / Casio CT-X5000
Instruments: Keys / Alto Recorder and Melodica |
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