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searlstudio
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: Auditioning Synth Engine Sounds |
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Hi,
Is it possible to specifically audition sounds from the individual synth engines? Short of scrolling through every preset I'm unsure how I can specifically get to MOD 7 sounds for example.
Now that I've had this amazing Kronos for a couple of weeks I want to start getting into programming some of the synths inside but want to work with each engine independently... Before combining of course.
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TSUNAMI Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 597 Location: Watford, Hertfordshire UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Auditioning Synth Engine Sounds |
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No, would be great if you could search like this though .... OS 1.6 Korg ?
searlstudio wrote: | Hi,
Is it possible to specifically audition sounds from the individual synth engines? Short of scrolling through every preset I'm unsure how I can specifically get to MOD 7 sounds for example.
Now that I've had this amazing Kronos for a couple of weeks I want to start getting into programming some of the synths inside but want to work with each engine independently... Before combining of course.
Thanks. |
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure I understand the request here.
In PROG mode scrolling through presets is easy. You press the value up or down button and the way the programs are organised is that specific engines are devoted to specific banks.
I assume the OPEN pcg button also allows people to access and audition the individual sounds inside a PCG file too.
Regards
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jimknopf Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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The banks have some blocks of mixed pickles synth sounds. But they are in no way a substitute for being able to scroll through all sounds of a certain engine, no matter in which bank they may be. This is really something fundamental missing in the present Kronos OS. When I want to search for MS-20 lead sounds, I have no chance to do it with the present OS.
Else the category system is really nice, with sub- and user-categories. Excellent job here!
But it has two major drawbacks:
a) the really CONSTANTLY annoying display of endless and most times not at all wanted GM sounds (this is really overdue to be changed to a mere option in an OS update!) and
b) the missing browsing through patches of single engines. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5 |
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Yuma Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 659 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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jimknopf wrote: | a) the really CONSTANTLY annoying display of endless and most times not at all wanted GM sounds (this is really overdue to be changed to a mere option in an OS update!) |
Dan confirmed this will be fixed in the 1.5 OS update.
jimknopf wrote: | b) the missing browsing through patches of single engines. |
I agree on this. While the category system works fine to find a sound in a specific instrument category, it would be very nice to browse by synth engine as well.
Since the 9 engines are a central part of Korgs advertising campaign for the Kronos, it would make sense to reflect this in the program browsing. _________________ || My music ■■ How to embed Youtube and Soundcloud on this forum ||
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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I know it would be only half a solution, but would it help if PCG Tools could generate a list that contains the engine(s) used per program?
You will have to navigate yourself but at least you don't have to find them yourself anymore.
Please let me know and I will add it to the wish list. (I'm watching this topic). _________________
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searlstudio
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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michelkeijzers wrote: | I know it would be only half a solution, but would it help if PCG Tools could generate a list that contains the engine(s) used per program?
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This would help initially. I would create sub categories in the program select browser for each of the synth engines. It would make it quicker for me to find them this way.
Ultimately an option to browse by engine would be best. _________________ iMac 27-inch. 3.5Ghz Intel Core i7, 32 GB RAM | Korg Kronos 2 61, Yamaha Montage 7, Akai EWI4000s | Ableton Live 9.7 |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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searlstudio wrote: | michelkeijzers wrote: | I know it would be only half a solution, but would it help if PCG Tools could generate a list that contains the engine(s) used per program?
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This would help initially. I would create sub categories in the program select browser for each of the synth engines. It would make it quicker for me to find them this way.
Ultimately an option to browse by engine would be best. |
I cannot change to OS of course but that would be a nice addition. Note that lots of programs would fall under 2 categories (using 2 different engines).
I will add it in the wish list but probably not implement it really soon, since the editor that comes out may contain such functionality (however I doubt it a bit). _________________
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I personally think that if you were just looking for example for MS-20 leads, you might miss out on some great leads from other programs that do fit the bill.
One of the nice things about the K and O is that you get that abstraction - the 'sounds' are entirely independent of the 'engines' and you can mix/match them fairly dynamically, unlike most software plugin environments. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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That doesn't make sense, since a program can be made up of 2 different EXis, or am I missing something? |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: |
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EXer wrote: | That doesn't make sense, since a program can be made up of 2 different EXis, or am I missing something? |
Tha't's true, so in this case a program using two different engines should belong to two different categories (at the same time). _________________
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philmagnotta Full Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 132 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe something like this:
When on an EXi or HD-1 page, touch a selection which could be called,
"DEFAULT"
That wouldn't be unusual. Other manufacturers have or have had a feature to implement a "DEFAULT" patch function for the starting point in programming.
Am I incorrect in recalling that programming functions already exist in the Kronos to do this, such as pressing buttons combinations to set an AMP ENV parameters to default, as well, other various operations?
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Vlad_77 Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 380 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if on the setlist screen there would be a possibility for an additional tab labeled "Engine Select." I realize of course that there would be much more than merely adding a tab, but, Kronos already DOES categorize by type, i.e, motion, plucked, keyboard, etc. It seems to me that since the nine synth engines are one of the big selling points of Kronos that Korg perhaps should have considered this. It's no big deal as consulting the OpGuide and Paramter Guide will tell you exactly what banks are devoted to/feature what engine.
Ahimsa,
Vlad
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