The Sequencer topic...again!

[Vadim]

But the PCM sounds like s**t It's like a trip back to the 80's.


Sharp.

(my opinion)

comparing MR-61/76 to other workstations that were made at that time, MR has better drums than others.
But if you compare other Ensoniq sounds to other Workstations, they're pretty much the same..
of coarse Trinity and roland XV modules are my favorite sounding Synths!

Maybe i'll get ensoniq to sequence Tr-rack and XV-5080, and get rid of all my other gear....

[bo.h]

if you are playing at 120 bpm then one beat, one quarter-note, will last for 0.5 sec.
if you take one 192nth of that it will lasts for less than 0.0027 sec.
if you are playing a sine-wave concert A (440Hz) during that time you will produce slightly more than one cycle.
that does not look like much of a sound to me.
i must have made a calculation error somewhere?

[Sina172]

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[AnthonyB]

"Give me the higher resolution, and I will... shut up!

Gerry, Dan, Jack, Steve, Ski?, Korg, Please, DO IT!!!


AnthonyB

[KingJ]

Well, at first I thought I would not write a reply, but...

I didn't bought the Oasys because the sequencer. A DAW is far more superior in many ways, and even if we get many updates, the DAW will be more superior. The Oasys is the greatest synthesizer on the earth right now, so please don't compare it with Kurzweil or Ensonic(!!)

Oasys rules as a synthesizer, there is no comparison. When talking sounds, it's in the same legue, or more superior than Synclavier and Fairlight and that is the kind of synths that you should compare Oasys with.

But that's my opinion

Best regards
M Wiik
Sweden

The Synclavier and the Fairlight still both kick everybody else's butt even today! I just did some research on the Fairlight, and I'm telling you, that thing can still blow away any other hardware synth out there today! There is absolutely no other hardware synth that allows you to draw your own soundwaves completely and literally from scratch with a light pen, and then gives you the ability to dynamically control 128 harmonics of that wave! Not even the Synclavier could do that! The Synclavier could get some very unique FM/addative sounds, and you could record 16 tracks of audio directly to the hard drive, which made it the beast it was. The Oasys is really the only thing that can even dream of coming close to the Fairlight or the Synclavier. I know that it's sample playback engines and it's polyphony can run circles around them both, but I'd love to see a Freeform Waveform, or an addative synthesis option for the Oasys! That would be a sound designer's dream!

[Kerzwhile]

But the PCM sounds like s**t It's like a trip back to the 80's.


Sharp.

(my opinion)

comparing MR-61/76 to other workstations that were made at that time, MR has better drums than others.
But if you compare other Ensoniq sounds to other Workstations, they're pretty much the same..
of coarse Trinity and roland XV modules are my favorite sounding Synths!

Maybe i'll get ensoniq to sequence Tr-rack and XV-5080, and get rid of all my other gear....

I think you nailed it Vadim. Seriously! The drums in the MR/ZR series were Soo ahead of their time! The sheer fact of having a drum machine that is editable built in that can be extremely easily sent to the sequencer is the DUH feature of the century!! Not to mention the Idea pad! The damn thing recorded EVERYTHING you played. How many times did any of you sit down and played something and wished you could reproduce it! "raises hand"??? Creative labs needs to blow up for ruining one of the BEST companies ever!!

[Vadim]

Creative labs needs to blow up for ruining one of the BEST companies ever!!

I agree 100%


...how I wish Ensoniq would still be here today...

[Daz]

Well, at first I thought I would not write a reply, but...

I didn't bought the Oasys because the sequencer. A DAW is far more superior in many ways, and even if we get many updates, the DAW will be more superior. The Oasys is the greatest synthesizer on the earth right now, so please don't compare it with Kurzweil or Ensonic(!!)

Oasys rules as a synthesizer, there is no comparison. When talking sounds, it's in the same legue, or more superior than Synclavier and Fairlight and that is the kind of synths that you should compare Oasys with.

But that's my opinion

Best regards
M Wiik
Sweden

The Synclavier and the Fairlight still both kick everybody else's butt even today! I just did some research on the Fairlight, and I'm telling you, that thing can still blow away any other hardware synth out there today! There is absolutely no other hardware synth that allows you to draw your own soundwaves completely and literally from scratch with a light pen, and then gives you the ability to dynamically control 128 harmonics of that wave! Not even the Synclavier could do that! The Synclavier could get some very unique FM/addative sounds, and you could record 16 tracks of audio directly to the hard drive, which made it the beast it was. The Oasys is really the only thing that can even dream of coming close to the Fairlight or the Synclavier. I know that it's sample playback engines and it's polyphony can run circles around them both, but I'd love to see a Freeform Waveform, or an addative synthesis option for the Oasys! That would be a sound designer's dream!

See also : http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=29821

[EJ2]

Greetings all,
I'm not having the issues with KARMA resolutions in the sequencer that Sina speaks of.

In case any of you missed these in Peter's blog, here are a few of my latest OASYS combi demos recorded live into OASYS sequencer. I simply loaded the combi into OASYS sequencer, hit record and started jamming. Once I saved the sequence, I then bounced it to wav in the OASYS hard disk recorder. I copied the wav to USB flash drive and transferred that to my studio computer where I converted it to MP3. No post production or over dubbing etc. was performed. It's straight combi recorded live. Except for the mp3 conversion, all of it was handled right within the OASYS.

Catalyst

The Dark Side LAC-1

Romulan House

And here I am at work.



Cheers,
Eric

[MartinHines]

Martin, I've ONE word for you: KARMA!

KARMA IS VERY POORLY INTEGRATED IN THE SEQUENCER FOR THIS REASON ALONE!!!!! That Resolution is a SICK joke! I mean, if we have GE's that are capable of doing 64th note arpeggiations, WHY ISN'T THE SEQUENCER DESIGNED TO MATCH IT?!!!! I have NOTHING but problems EVERY time I even TRY to Quantize my tracks that use KARMA!

I am confused. The OASYS 1/192 PPQ (parts per quarter note) translates into:
-- 12 parts (sub-divisions) per 64th note
-- 6 parts per 128th note
-- 3 parts per 256th note

I don't understand how Karma 64th note arpeggiations create any problem. I also don't understand your "why isn't sequencer designed to match it" statement. 192 PPQ EXCEEDS 64th note resolution by a factor of 12. Unless I misunderstand PPQ, the current resolution allows for 12 sub-divisions within a 64th note.

I am still looking for some type of factual information that shows the real value of higher PPQ resolution.

[EJ2]

Hi Sina,
I think I know what could possibly be resulting in your timing mismatches. It could be the "retriggering" settings for KARMA modules in some combis. Check out the ones that are causing you difficulties. If the triggers are set to "Any", "AKR", or "Dyn" and the "Quantize Trigger" resolution is too tight, you are going to have retriggering of some modules that will go out of time if you miss the on-beat cadence. In this case, you can set all of the triggers in a particular combi to "1st" and the timing will lock up in step with your very first note activating KARMA. Try that and see if it works.
Cheers,
Eric