My M50 patch for Shine on you Crazy Diamond ;)

fax · Post by **fax** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:23 pm

Guys,

Could you please post the PCG file for that patch?

Here is the direct link to the Combi made by Scrap (as I said in my previous message)

http://www.reprehensible.net/~scrap/PROG.zip

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:41 pm

CfNorENa wrote:
kikedeolivos wrote:
klarnet basowy wrote:I don't have the M50 anymore, so I can't share the patch, sorry
Why did you get rid from it?
He couldn't stand the Leslie sim.

Very funny.

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:03 pm

It seems that the Leslie sim on the M50 is the same as the one in the Triton (based on the parameters in the documentation). To me, the Triton's sim sounded pretty good for a rompler. The M50s I've played don't sound very convincing, but it would be interesting to try tweaking the parameters to match the Triton's.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:15 pm

BillW wrote:It seems that the Leslie sim on the M50 is the same as the one in the Triton (based on the parameters in the documentation). To me, the Triton's sim sounded pretty good for a rompler. The M50s I've played don't sound very convincing, but it would be interesting to try tweaking the parameters to match the Triton's.

I think you are right and the sound is very passable on the Triton: would like to replicate it, including adding drawbars/harmonics via the 4 knobs as the guy does on the video.(but I don't know how to)
Also, his sound is fat, ballsy and can't replicate that on the M50.

The video I'm talking about on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34o-ST1kcFY

The problem with Korg romplers (organs) is that everything seems fine until you hit the last upper A or C with the Leslie on Tremolo (fast) and single notes (and chords) sound SO thin and plasticly...

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:32 pm

kikedeolivos wrote:Very funny.

All in good fun. I don't think Klarnet Basowy got the joke...

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:36 pm

I was also looking at this Triton example on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Space4Keys# ... BFp0ETU4Ss

I don't know about the LE, but the Triton Extreme has a lot more ROM organ samples than the M50 (including 11 that are unique to the Extreme that show up in the New2 ROM bank). I keep trying to like the M50, but for less money the Extreme still seems to be a much better value.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:41 pm

BillW wrote:I was also looking at this Triton example on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Space4Keys# ... BFp0ETU4Ss

I don't know about the LE, but the Triton Extreme has a lot more ROM organ samples than the M50 (including 11 that are unique to the Extreme that show up in the New2 ROM bank). I keep trying to like the M50, but for less money the Extreme still seems to be a much better value.

There are several videos there: which one should I be looking for?

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:48 pm

oh...he has a page with "Korg Workstations and Synths" videos...there's one for the Triton (3rd from the top). The organ I'm referring to is a couple of minutes into the video. Let me know if you can't find it.

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:50 pm

Here are some M50 examples...these aren't too bad (once you get past the pipe organ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4vqkDMwFGw

klarnet basowy · Post by **klarnet basowy** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:54 pm

CfNorENa wrote:
kikedeolivos wrote:Very funny.
All in good fun. I don't think Klarnet Basowy got the joke...

Ehm...

no, I'm thinking but I'm not able to recall something related to this :3dread:

. Has it some connection with the leslie of the Kurz PC3?

*** EDIT EDIT: I've seen the thread, ok ok

Anyway, it's not the organs... even if the KB3 emulation of the Kurz it's... yeah!

Now I stop or I think I will be gently banned from that forum

(which I like a lot)

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:59 pm

BillW wrote:oh...he has a page with "Korg Workstations and Synths" videos...there's one for the Triton (3rd from the top). The organ I'm referring to is a couple of minutes into the video. Let me know if you can't find it.

Found it and I will be very happy with that sound and sim starting at 1:40. It's odd that being the M50 EDS and all the BS and hype about how great the new engine sounds, it doesn't have that timbre / effect at all or, am I missing something with the M50?

klarnet basowy · Post by **klarnet basowy** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:03 pm

BillW wrote:I keep trying to like the M50, but for less money the Extreme still seems to be a much better value.

Extreme was a flagship workstation, it's build, featured and sounds like one.

M50 is a budget workstation, sounds kindly a big one, but is cheapy in many other departments.

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:19 pm

kikedeolivos wrote:Found it and I will be very happy with that sound and sim starting at 1:40. It's odd that being the M50 EDS and all the BS and hype about how great the new engine sounds, it doesn't have that timbre / effect at all or, am I missing something with the M50?

The Tritons (especially the Extreme) had a LOT of cool things in wave ROM that the M3 and M50 do not. I've got the two lists in front of me and have been looking at them for the past couple of hours. The M series seems like an attempt to answer for the lack of "realistic" sounding instruments (i.e., piano & guitar) in the Korg workstations from the past. It really depends on what you need I guess. I have those areas covered in my Fantom G so I'm looking for the Triton's synth sounds (which I was hoping to find in the M50 because it's so lightweight). I'm also carrying a VK-8M organ module around right now for a couple of songs. If the Extreme could cover me there, it would be the best of both worlds.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:24 pm

BillW wrote:
kikedeolivos wrote:Found it and I will be very happy with that sound and sim starting at 1:40. It's odd that being the M50 EDS and all the BS and hype about how great the new engine sounds, it doesn't have that timbre / effect at all or, am I missing something with the M50?
...The Tritons (especially the Extreme) had a LOT of cool things in wave ROM that the M3 and M50 do not...

What a bummer.

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:57 pm

klarnet basowy wrote:M50 is a budget workstation, sounds kindly a big one, but is cheapy in many other departments.

That may be true of the M50-61 and M50-73, but I don't think it's a fair assessment of the M50-88, which really does not feel cheap to me (especially because of its outstanding RH3 keybed, the same one as on the M3).