My M50 patch for Shine on you Crazy Diamond ;)

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:59 pm

CfNorENa wrote:
klarnet basowy wrote:M50 is a budget workstation, sounds kindly a big one, but is cheapy in many other departments.
That may be true of the M50-61 and M50-73, but I don't think it's a fair assessment of the M50-88, which really does not feel cheap to me (especially because of its outstanding RH3 keybed, the same one as on the M3).

But the sounds are the same...

klarnet basowy · Post by **klarnet basowy** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:36 pm

CfNorENa wrote:
klarnet basowy wrote:M50 is a budget workstation, sounds kindly a big one, but is cheapy in many other departments.
That may be true of the M50-61 and M50-73, but I don't think it's a fair assessment of the M50-88, which really does not feel cheap to me (especially because of its outstanding RH3 keybed, the same one as on the M3).

Correct. M50-88 is another beast, because of the keybed. But, for me, the keybed of the 61 version was "embarassing".

klarnet basowy · Post by **klarnet basowy** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:55 pm

kikedeolivos wrote:
BillW wrote: ...The Tritons (especially the Extreme) had a LOT of cool things in wave ROM that the M3 and M50 do not...
What a bummer.

I think he's simply saying the truth, also confirmed in a thread here on Korg Forums by a Korg member. M3/M50 have more waveforms in number, but many are repetition of the same instrument at various volume levels. Nothing wrong with this, it's simply a slightly different approach on what sound to put in a given quantity of MB of samples.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:00 pm

klarnet basowy wrote:
kikedeolivos wrote:
BillW wrote: ...The Tritons (especially the Extreme) had a LOT of cool things in wave ROM that the M3 and M50 do not...
What a bummer.
I think he's simply saying the truth, also confirmed in a thread here on Korg Forums by a Korg member. M3/M50 have more waveforms in number, but many are repetition of the same instrument at various volume levels. Nothing wrong with this, it's simply a slightly different approach on what sound to put in a given quantity of MB of samples.

I understand, but organs are one of the pillars of a good sound-set (like piano, EP, brass, strings, bass, guitar and drums): I would have not care if they skipped Samoan Kalimba or whatever (no offense to the Samoans), but organs...That Triton video was awesome and one would suppose new technology (EDS) serves us to move forward, not backwards in sound realism.

klarnet basowy · Post by **klarnet basowy** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:06 pm

You're right. There is also another thing that I've found to be "funny" in the M3/M50 samples: the amount of sine/saw/etc. waves sampled from different real analog synths... i.e. the same sound except from minor changes easily to be done with a little change in the filter cutoff or other.

Anyway, organs are difficult to manage with rompler keyboards, also the KB3 mode of the Kurz (which isn't really the top of organ emulation, but at least is one of them) have easily better organs than M3/M50. (ok, Kurz don't have the motion pads of Korg, so 1-1

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BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:24 pm

Well, what's done is done regarding the M-series wave ROMs. Roland did the same thing with the Fantom G by leaving out a lot of potentially great SRX board content. Nothing we can do about that now.

Alp · Post by **Alp** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:37 pm

This Shine on Patch is amazing!

My level of experience: I am a newbie. I wish there was a school one could take synth classes at because i am at a loss most of the time. It seems a certain level of experience is assumed for the average user in the documentation. A level many lack.
I have had the keyboard for almost a years now and I am JUST starting to learn how to import and export PCG files and test other areas.

I have to say that the Shine On file really BLOWS my mind. The author, Scrap, has done an amazing job.

First off, I can't imaging the level of understanding required to even "program" something like this. It will be a source of education as I 'try' to reverse engineer it. It has already helped me move ahead in a few areas.

By tinkering around with the M-50 editor, I was able to modify the ranges of the keyboard where the different instruments "lived".

It took some hours before I realized I could use knob 4 for the bells (even though it said so somewhere in the file name somewhere).
And then it was not until the next day that I learned how to hook up that "Sustain pedal" I have (Yes, it goes in the socket marked DAMPER) despite multiple earlier attempts at trying to get it to work in the PEDAL socket on the back of the M-50.

Earlier the same day I figured out how to turn on the guitar voice and turn off the lead synth using the mute/play switch in the play menu.

Thanks Scrap!