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Recording your creations: The mystery device.

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Once you have created elements on a Kpro or Kp3 and can play out a nice version of a track in realtime by turning off and on bits. What hardware options are there to record this?

I know you can record the stream to a computer, but I am very curious about a hardware solution as I don't have access to a computer at all times. There are things like the ehx 2880, but this is a pretty advanced bit of kit and overkill to just record a single track.

Is there a hardware device that will record to a CF card or something similar, one track of audio at least 5 mins in length?

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I've been looking for quite a while for something just like the very thing you're talking about. It depends how much you want to spend really...
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I was going to suggest such things as the Tascam DP-004 and the Boss Micro BR.
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Post by salamanderanagram »

personally i'd suggest buying a cheap computer.
mine cost $500, has 4 gigs of ram, a 2.2 gig dual processor, 4 usb ports and 320 gigs of harddrive space. you're not going to get the same sort of power/usability out of any hardware recorder at that price.
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It's more expensive in the end, and pretty much still requires a computer - but I really, really like the Korg SoS recorder. Main advantage is that it's very portable, extremely easy to use, and includes a really good microphone for vocal/field recording as well as a guitar input.

I think it's just perfect for recording from the KPro.
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Hmmm...

When it gets to around 250-300$ then I feel that I might as well get an ehx 2880, but that would be a pretty big waste for my needs.

The Tascam and Boss Micro BR seem like the right sort of price range but its like they are designed for another purpose: to record outdoors/away from a studio and with a lot of microphone options.

I wish there was such thing as a dumbed down 1 track 2880: Simple push button record from line in, and audio through/out so I can record what I hear.

Any other suggestions?
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The Tascam or micro BR will do what you want, as will any of the small handy recorders by Zoom, Sony, etc. they can record from a stereo line in as well as microphones, very versatile little devices.
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I decided to go for the Tascam dp-004:

http://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DP-004-Poc ... 253&sr=8-1


It has the right profile to sit on a desk and feels more stable to use as part of my setup than the zoom type devices which seem too geared imho to outdoor 'in your pocket' and quick mic style use. It also has 1/4 inch inputs instead of miniJack inputs, which I like.

I picked one up from SamAsh yesterday (who matched amazon price) and so far I like it. Its really dead easy to use and doesn't feel like its going to break anytime soon.

I have only had it for a day so far, i'll report back in a few days and tell you how its working out.

Thanks all, for the suggestions. I love this forum!
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Post by Mr36 »

YES!!! I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

I am taking full credit for this. Tascam! Where's my commission?

I would have chosen that one too though and if I could summon up the cash, I would. Laptops/computers are all well and good for recording and unsurpassed in many respects but it's just not convenient for me to always take my laptop and set it up for recording.
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Exactly Mr36, great advice and I choose it for the very same reasons.

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Hi ,

I know Im late to the thread but I am hoping someone can answer my questions.

I am looking at either the tascam or zooms mentioned here.

the aplication is thus..

I create live loops that end up being summed to one output containing my instrument and one containing my vocals

I would like a device that can capture these both live on differant tracks (I.E. one in theleft ear one in the right) with this method I can then treat each track separatly when back at my daw...can either / both do this)


my next questions is how easy is it to set up the limiter my signal goes from very quest to very loud so a limiter is a mist to keep the professional shine... but on my currant MRS4 you have to go through pages or editing to set it up every time you turn it on.


most of my gigs have a five minute setup time so i cant deal with lots of menus...

basically how easy is it to use?

thanks

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Post by Bowmoney »

micro br can do that if the tracks are left and right...it records stereo
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I don't use it for simultaneous recording, so I'm not completely sure, but I am pretty sure the DP-004 can record from 2 different inputs at the same time.

You would have to have your instrument and vocal tracks separated going into the DP-004 as input A, and input B. Pretty sure you can record both at the same time.

I'd test it for ya if I was at home now, maybe tonight if I get a chance after work. If I was you I would grab a DP-004 from a music store that has a good return policy and test it out for yourself.

The DP-004 is very easy to use. It comes with a bigger manual than most of my other gear, but it just over explains. The unit is very simple.
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Post by Mr36 »

Both the Boss Micro BR and the Tascam DP-004 can record two tracks simultaneously.

Unfortunately, you have to get quite big and expensive in hardware recording before you can record more than that though, it seems. Even most of the mid-range desktop-sized recorders will only record two.

But as you only wanted two, this is good for you! :)
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