Good headphones for my Oasys

[ozy]

so, we've got a space scientist, a olympics coach and a couple of skilld music engineers in their late 40s/early 50s...

... all of them basically immature idiots.

Debate dropped as far as I am concerned.

Have a nice Sunday and Merry X-Mas, all of you

[Akos Janca]

so, we've got a space scientist, a olympics coach and a couple of skilld music engineers in their late 40s/early 50s...

And you are none of them.

... all of them basically immature idiots.

(What a perfect sense of humor.) No, THEY are not.

Debate dropped as far as I am concerned.

It was not a debate at all.

Have a nice Sunday and Merry X-Mas, all of you

Good job! Go to M3 forum instead.

[peter m. mahr]

Seems that I'm the only one using AKG. They were my first headphones and I still like using them for sound programming (checking details.... if there are any ) and sometimes for mixing. Does anyone of you know SPL's Phonitor and did anyone of you ever use it? I'm thinking of investing in one as for the others playing the same sound or same part of a song several times can become annoying.....

Peter

[Akos Janca]

Akos, I don't mean to offend but I really think you have taken this all a bit seriously.

Hi t_tangent,

Thank you. I don't agree with you but I respect your opinion.

Well, this is a free place with equal rights for us, members. So, based on this, can we post anything here? Certainly, not. Even if we personally like it or we think it's right. In my opinion: #1. We must follow the rules of the forum. #2. We should try to not offend or insult each other (which is generally also included in #1). If a post fulfills these requirements then it's OK to keep. Do you guys agree with this?

If a post doesn't fulfill these rules then it should be removed. The picture in Hedegaard's post is off topic (against rule #1) and offending (against #2) - even if I'm the only one who noted. That's why I kindly asked him to remove. Why it's so hard to understand it?

Ozy came only right after this. Please note without anything useful to contribute regarding the topic. And now left - after ruining it.

By the way, I am 46 and British with some Irish ancesty...

For example, you certainly don't want me to post the best jokes about Irish or British people here, do you? Even if I like them very much I won't publish because these could be insulting. Even if they are about Irish people with headphones on.

[Kevin Nolan]

so, we've got a space scientist, a olympics coach and a couple of skilld music engineers in their late 40s/early 50s...

... all of them basically immature idiots.

Hey - I'm offended.

I most certainly am not an immature idiot in my late 40s/early 50's.

I'm an immature idiot in my mid-40's (and at my age - it's _really_ important to get that right!!)



and to defend Peter's choice - you'll probably see more AKG's in studios than any other make - I've no particular experience of them but many,many top musicians and engineers swear by them. The k701 and 702's are legendary.

Kevin

[ozy]

sorry Kevin,

I'd have a nice retort about Mid-Somethings , but I am already outta here before I become really impolite and I go ethnic about nostalgies of Warsaw Pact thought police ["go there", "do that", "stop this", "lean that other"...].

It's no fun any more.

Akos: even when I told you to cheer up, I asked "please". So, please... please learn saying "please" and asking people, not giving them orders.

[Sina172]

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[ozy]

Sina, you sound really knowledgeable.

1) Would it be possible for you to just post a quick list of price tags for those products? Of course I mean the aproximated price range, not a best price survey (which I'd perform myself on the web).

Just asking in case you have those data handy as well.

2) may I ask for further details on the following?

In studio, I need to branch my headphones to a mostly analogue setup mixed by a soundcraft gb2,

and I'd like better definition, especially at mid-to-low ends, which is pretty dense when working on layered analogues.

It's not for final PRODUCTION, it's for SOUND DESIGN finalised to live performance.

Thanks a lot.

[cello]

Hi all - I've been watching this very interesting thread develop and resisted several times to get involved...

However, (on the original topic) - hearing is subjective for us all - first rule we have to remember. What I would really, really, like is to have is when I play a sound on speakers or headphones, they sound the same. I find I get different results when I mix on headphones, or mix by the sound of my speakers.

I have a simple enough grasp of physics that bass sounds will sound more powerful on powered speakers that have physically larger speakers. Just like the high end of the scale 'seems' more prominent on headphones (because of smaller speakers). I get this because of the physics involved.

But... how do you guys judge when mixing? I have the additional problem that I am also recording/mixing a cello - an unusual orchestral instrument (unlike any other) in that it produces boomy bass notes and light higher registers - also when a string is bowed (which even the O can't replicate) there are many harmonics produced dependent on the dynamics being played.

I can have a great sounding piece with say, 24 tracks (well, 12 stereo tracks) of the O + Radias and then when the cello goes on top - all goes horrid! I find I have to manually adjust the track all the way through the piece - and if I do it on headphones, mix sounds bad on speakers and if I mix using speakers, it sounds bad on headphones!

I've been doing this for the last 10 years or so and still haven't got it the way I would like! So any advice...

I know this is perhaps extending the original topic but I think it is related and relevant!

PS I'm a 46 year-old airline operations consultant

[Sina172]

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[peter m. mahr]

Hi cello,

Which microphone and Pre-amp do you use for recording cello?

Concerning mixing with headphones - as stated in my previous posting, SPL recently launched a new product named Phonitor:
http://www.spl.info/index.php?id=357&L=0
which - at least that's what SPL claims - comes close to speakers.

Peter

[ozy]

PS I'm a 46 year-old airline operations consultant

now THAT's weird! Is everybody here 46, but me?

Seriously (more or less): I am not a sound engineer , but in my limited, but decades-long, experience, what's got to be used live has to be programmed AT LEAST on monitors, then tested with live monitors and in front of live instruments.

Sometimes you program a nice patch in your studio, and when you go live the only way to have that sound sit correctly in the space is lowering it to -90db, forgetting it and throwing a layer of ketchup on the issue.

Problem is, I need to use headphones in order to listen to a relevant volume without annoying family and neighbours when rehearsing at home (sound-design sessions are especially annoying for the layman. Twang! Twaaaaang... Tweeeeeeeng. No, back. Twaaaaaang... Let's try this. Tweeeeiiiiiing... ]

So, I'd like to get a quasi-live response by my headphones.

I am currently on AKG.

Will try the models sina recommended as the best "bang for the buck".

[peter m. mahr]

I'm sorry, no. I'm a 45 year old molecular geneticist.

Peter

[cello]

Hi cello, Which microphone and Pre-amp do you use for recording cello?

I use two Shure Sm57 mics. They go straight into the D3200. Haven't tried using the O for this part - sina swears by the O for mixing but I haven't attempted it. But am going to have a look at the link you posted...

(sound-design sessions are especially annoying for the layman. Twang! Twaaaaang... Tweeeeeeeng. No, back. Twaaaaaang... Let's try this. Tweeeeiiiiiing... )

That's so true! So does AKG work for you given how you have to work?

So, ozy - spill! Age and profession please

[Sina172]

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