Kronos OS 1.5

carmol · Post by **carmol** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:57 pm

Kim wrote:listening to the customers wishes.

I guess that customer wishes,
after spending 3000 €s, are
also new free sound libraries...
I am a little disappointed that I have to pay
for bosendorfer piano.

keyplayer14 · Post by **keyplayer14** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:18 pm

carmol wrote:
Kim wrote:listening to the customers wishes.
I guess that customer wishes,
after spending 3000 €s, are
also new free sound libraries...
I am a little disappointed that I have to pay
for bosendorfer piano.

I have to laugh really, a major OS update that fixes a lot of stuff people have been moaning about, and immediately someone's complaining about paying for new libraries....why would you expect it to be free?

Mike-pol · Post by **Mike-pol** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:20 pm

Hi
Someone mentioned product registration issue.
I tried on Korg web site and got a message like: Registration for customer out of USA is not supported.
So Korg does not really care about non-american users??

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:25 pm

Mike-pol wrote:Hi
Someone mentioned product registration issue.
I tried on Korg web site and got a message like: Registration for customer out of USA is not supported.
So Korg does not really care about non-american users??

You should register with your national distributor.

For example, I would register products I've bought in the UK with Korg UK.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:44 pm

From my view the Kronos already has a very good price-value relation, and the last thing Korg owes any Kronos buyer are free libraries.

It looks plain ridiculous to me to ask for a free high quality Boesendorfer.
You could as well ask for a free Scarbee or East West library.
Nobody could take such wishes serious.

It's something else if Korg decides to refresh or replace some of their older HD-1 patches from early Oasys times at some point in time. But asking for big new sound libraries is a bit pathetic IMO.

EXer · Post by **EXer** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:27 pm

keyplayer14 wrote:I have to laugh really, a major OS update that fixes a lot of stuff people have been moaning about, and immediately someone's complaining about paying for new libraries....why would you expect it to be free?

Why not?

The Clavia Nord Sample Library and the Clavia Nord Piano Library are available without additional charge (and the Nord Piano Library includes a Steinway D, a Yamaha C7 and a Bösendorfer Imperial...).

burningbusch · Post by **burningbusch** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:43 pm

EXer wrote:
keyplayer14 wrote:I have to laugh really, a major OS update that fixes a lot of stuff people have been moaning about, and immediately someone's complaining about paying for new libraries....why would you expect it to be free?
Why not?

The Clavia Nord Sample Library and the Clavia Nord Piano Library are available without additional charge (and the Nord Piano Library includes a Steinway D, a Yamaha C7 and a Bösendorfer Imperial...).

I think even the biggest Nord fans will admit that you pay a premium for the keyboard in order to have access to the "free" sounds. That's just their business model. The Stage 2 88 is $500 more than the Kronos 88. Do you want to compare the number of sounds included in each, depth of the VA(s), multitimbral, master keyboard and sampling capabilities of these two keyboards? Pretty soon the Nord Sample Library will include all the sounds you find in a basic ROMpler, albiet at a single velocity layer. And every time they update one of their models, the price goes up. You pay for it, one way or the other.

Busch.

keyplayer14 · Post by **keyplayer14** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:18 pm

burningbusch wrote:I think even the biggest Nord fans will admit that you pay a premium for the keyboard in order to have access to the "free" sounds. That's just their business model. The Stage 2 88 is $500 more than the Kronos 88. Do you want to compare the number of sounds included in each, depth of the VA(s), multitimbral, master keyboard and sampling capabilities of these two keyboards? Pretty soon the Nord Sample Library will include all the sounds you find in a basic ROMpler, albiet at a single velocity layer. And every time they update one of their models, the price goes up. You pay for it, one way or the other.

Busch.

Absolutely, and also the entire Nord Piano Library comes in at somewhere around 2 gigs, as compared to 4.7 gigs of unlooped samples per piano in the K.

RonF · Post by **RonF** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:59 pm

burningbusch wrote: I think even the biggest Nord fans will admit that you pay a premium for the keyboard in order to have access to the "free" sounds. That's just their business model. The Stage 2 88 is $500 more than the Kronos 88. Do you want to compare the number of sounds included in each, depth of the VA(s), multitimbral, master keyboard and sampling capabilities of these two keyboards? Pretty soon the Nord Sample Library will include all the sounds you find in a basic ROMpler, albiet at a single velocity layer. And every time they update one of their models, the price goes up. You pay for it, one way or the other.

Busch.

100% agreed. The Kronos represents a much more in depth value. The Nord line is wonderful.....but if I had to choose between Kronos or Nord....there would be no comparison....Kronos every time. Its a sampler after all....you can pretty much sample/replicate anything the Nord can do if you put your mind to it. No way can Nord replicate what the Kronos can do.

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:35 pm

Link to KORG USA page about System Version 1.5

http://korg.com/go.aspx?kronos_system_version

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:55 pm

drchris · Post by **drchris** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:26 am

Slightly OT...

But the Nord seems to have a "Cool" factor that I'm not sure I understand. A friend of some of my bandmates got a Nord recently and all they want to talk about is how cool that board is. IMO, the Kronos is so much more in many ways. (Of course that guy can play circles around me blindfolded and with one and a half hands tied behind his back!)

Back OT..

I'm really excited about the 1.5 changes! Thankfully they're not far off, and there's plenty to explore and learn between now and then.

Chris

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:59 am

I have a Nord Stage classic and it is an entirely different beast than a Kronos. It can sound really good, there is no digital board in the world that is as quick and easy to edit and adapt, but it's obviously quite limited. I'm now making the switch to the Kronos 88 exactly for that reason. The main things I personally miss are a more comprehensive eq/fx path and more sounds. The seq I won't be using so that wasn't part of the trade-off.

I still see the value of the Nord as a pure live stage piano. It's a different animal than the Kronos. But I know what I'll be missing and I'm ok with that.

carmol · Post by **carmol** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:57 am

keyplayer14 wrote:
carmol wrote:
Kim wrote:listening to the customers wishes.

I have to laugh really, a major OS update that fixes a lot of stuff people have been moaning about, and immediately someone's complaining about paying for new libraries....why would you expect it to be free?
Well, we HOPE that the update fix a lot of stuff,
there's no mention about font size and touch screen precision,
for example. Only memory, user banks and support of pads.
For a workstation in that price range,
having at least some free new library
would be a nice step,
I.E. to shut the mouth of those that complain
about guitars and brasses, or those that did not like
the "gift" of oasys libraries that many previously buy
at not cheap price.

Many people are joking about the fact that in order to have
these libraries for free, you have just to wait 5 years only.
A stupid joke, indeed, but annoying

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:14 am

carmol wrote:
keyplayer14 wrote:
carmol wrote: Well, we HOPE that the update fix a lot of stuff,
there's no mention about font size and touch screen precision,
for example. Only memory, user banks and support of pads.
For a workstation in that price range,
having at least some free new library
would be a nice step,
I.E. to shut the mouth of those that complain
about guitars and brasses, or those that did not like
the "gift" of oasys libraries that many previously buy
at not cheap price.

Many people are joking about the fact that in order to have
these libraries for free, you have just to wait 5 years only.
The font size and touch screen precision will probably not be fixed, however can it be called a fix? It is a wish for some people who think it is so small, but for the majority the font size is ok.

There will be lots of libraries available by people on this forum for example, willingly to share them for free. Maybe eventually Korg will give some libraries for free.

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