Kronos Wish List!

[StephenKay]

In Pad Play mode... unless I am mistaken or have not found a way to disable it. Editing capabilities are still live for the various chord entry slots, when in pad Play Mode, making it very difficult/irritating to actually play without selecting a box for editing (and actually sometimes making the edit) instead of triggering a chord.

That's already been fixed in OS 1.5. When Enable Pad Play is on, you cannot edit.

[Jdudman]

Thanks for the info Stephen, I will get busy and download the update

[StephenKay]

Thanks for the info Stephen, I will get busy and download the update

You'll have to wait until it's available.

[amosdef]

I think what he means is something like:
- you have 2 keyboards, one of them is the Kronos, both connected to MIDI
- the only sound comes from the Kronos, i.e. the other is a slave keyboard
- On the Kronos you use timbres in a combi, some set to MIDI channel 1 (Kronos) and some to 2 (the other keyboard)
- Switches, sliders, ribbon control, JS, VJ etc only affect MIDI channel 1

What would be nice is to be able to affect all the Kronos controls to affect MIDI channel 2 (or even better: multiple MIDI channels at once).

note: and if the other one did not mean this, I would like to add this feature on the wish list.

EXACTLY!

I would love some more flexibility with this type of setup. Having one sustain pedal work over all midi channels would be a big one for me. I'd rather have to choose which midi channels to ignore the sustain pedal than have to use two separate pedals.

I'd also like an easy way to have both the Kronos keyboard and the external midi keyboard trigger the same sounds on the Kronos in certain situations. For instance. If I have a sound on channel 1 to be played via the Kronos keyboard, I would also like an option of triggering those sounds on the external keyboard (not necessarily at the same time, which could cause some note stealing and other issues)

As an example, I'm currently using the Alesis Fusion and it has the option to enable/disable an external midi controller for each sound. By having the external controller on the same midi channel, it also responds to one sustain pedal for all sounds, with the ability to disable it on individual sounds if needed.

[michelkeijzers]

You can already trigger sounds on the Kronos from an external keyboard. Use a combi, set the MIDI channel to the MIDI channel of the external keyboard and all notes you play (with that MIDI channel) will be played from the Kronos. I do it on my Korg M50 all the time.

[michelkeijzers]

It would be nice to have some controller matrix model. That for each controller you can select which CC it controls AND which MIDI channels (on/off per channel). Then functions should be assignable (except for the default ones) per CC, so e.g. program Up and program Down should have 2 different CCs.

[amosdef]

You can already trigger sounds on the Kronos from an external keyboard. Use a combi, set the MIDI channel to the MIDI channel of the external keyboard and all notes you play (with that MIDI channel) will be played from the Kronos. I do it on my Korg M50 all the time.

I understand that, but I still need the ability to separate the two keyboards from triggering the same sound. If I set the external keyboard to the same midi channel as the Kronos, I can't do this. If I set the external keyboard to a different channel, I can't play sounds on the Kronos' midi channel with the external keyboard. Having a filter for external midi notes should be a workable solution. This way I can have the midi channel for both keyboards set to the same one and can filter out the external keyboard's notes from triggering the Kronos' sounds when needed.

[michelkeijzers]

You can already trigger sounds on the Kronos from an external keyboard. Use a combi, set the MIDI channel to the MIDI channel of the external keyboard and all notes you play (with that MIDI channel) will be played from the Kronos. I do it on my Korg M50 all the time.

I understand that, but I still need the ability to separate the two keyboards from triggering the same sound. If I set the external keyboard to the same midi channel as the Kronos, I can't do this. If I set the external keyboard to a different channel, I can't play sounds on the Kronos' midi channel with the external keyboard. Having a filter for external midi notes should be a workable solution. This way I can have the midi channel for both keyboards set to the same one and can filter out the external keyboard's notes from triggering the Kronos' sounds when needed.

I don't think I understand you ... what if you try:
- Connect MIDI out from the external keyboard to MIDI in from the Kronos
- Put Kronos on MIDI channel 1
- Put the external keyboard to MIDI channel 2
- Make a combi on the Kronos where some timbres are set to MIDI channel 1 (the ones you play on the Kronos) and other timbres to MIDI channel 2 (the ones played on the external keyboard)

You can even use a MIDI cable from Kronos MIDI out to External keyboard MIDI in and use the same method on the external keyboard if it supports multiple channel setups (i.e. Combi) like the Kronos.

[Ksynth]

I'd like to be able to record sequences directly onto the pads like RPPRs

I realize you can assign RPPRs but sometimes it would be helpful to capture a very quick little riff onto a pad.

[amosdef]

I don't think I understand you ... what if you try:
- Connect MIDI out from the external keyboard to MIDI in from the Kronos
- Put Kronos on MIDI channel 1
- Put the external keyboard to MIDI channel 2
- Make a combi on the Kronos where some timbres are set to MIDI channel 1 (the ones you play on the Kronos) and other timbres to MIDI channel 2 (the ones played on the external keyboard)

You can even use a MIDI cable from Kronos MIDI out to External keyboard MIDI in and use the same method on the external keyboard if it supports multiple channel setups (i.e. Combi) like the Kronos.

I am using that set up to create my combis currently, but it has the following problems, which I'm hoping can be fixed in a future update to allow a more flexible setup.

For this setup, I use the Kronos (top keyboard) as the sound source and the external keyboard (bottom keyboard) for midi control only

1) I can not assign a track to respond to multiple midi channels, so I can not trigger that track with either keyboards, I have to create 2 tracks with the same sound and set each one to the corresponding midi channel (1 and 2) This eats up resources. This is not a huge issue, but is nice to be able to use either keyboard and sometimes I need to layer a sound on the top keyboard but only have a single sound on the bottom. This allows me to use one less sound in the combi.

2) I have to use 2 sustain pedals in order to get all sounds to sustain. I would much rather have the sustain pedal work for every midi channel and let me filter it out on a per track basis via the midi filter. Same goes for the pitch bend for any sounds played via the bottom keyboard (midi channel 2)

Not knowing what's involved, I can only assume that it might be possible to add a midi filter that recognizes notes coming in from the midi in and filters them out. This would allow me to set my external keyboard to the same channel as the Kronos and just disable the external keyboard from triggering certain tracks, which is how it's done on the Alesis Fusion that I'm currently using.

Hope that clears things up

[jeebustrain]

I tried to go through the whole thread and I couldn't find the suggestion for an edit undo in the track editor inside the sequencer. With the slightly convoluted track view, I've been finding myself accidentally copy/pasting measures 1-2 measures off or accidentally on the wrong track (not noticing it in the dialog box). Would be awesome if there was a ctrl+z equivalent!

[StephenKay]

I tried to go through the whole thread and I couldn't find the suggestion for an edit undo in the track editor inside the sequencer. With the slightly convoluted track view, I've been finding myself accidentally copy/pasting measures 1-2 measures off or accidentally on the wrong track (not noticing it in the dialog box). Would be awesome if there was a ctrl+z equivalent!

More robust undo features might be nice, but there is an undo: try the COMPARE button - it works as an undo for the most recent edit operation.

[ParadoxMachine]

First off, I love the Kronos and all of it's capabilities. I own a 61 version for a couple of weeks now, and it has been able to replace my entire 3 keyboard setup (2 slave controllers, just for the sake of quickly getting to all of my sounds) thanks to set list mode combined with a switch pedal.

I play in a band where I need to switch sounds a lot during songs (one song easily occupies two pages of a set list). I've started organizing songs in individual set lists in order to keep things tidy.

Now, for shows we don't always use the same songs nor the same order of songs. There isn't time for me between songs to open the set list selection page and select the next song, therefore I need to create another set list for the show and insert all of the entries from the individual songs in playing order (this takes a lot of time, having to move 150 - 200 set list entries around).

I suppose it would be outrageous to suggest some sort of 'set list of set lists' option, but perhaps it would be an idea to allow a user to copy a range of entries from a set list, and insert them all at once in another one. Some sort of set list import feature

Oh yeah, and a transpose option for programs in set lists would be nice (now I have to create duplicates of programs pitched up or down for some parts)

[michelkeijzers]

@Paradoxmachine: good news, I will deliver soon a version of PCG Tools where you can move set list slots up/down ... I will add the feature to copy complete set lists (or part of them) to another set list but this will take more time.

[ParadoxMachine]

@Paradoxmachine: good news, I will deliver soon a version of PCG Tools where you can move set list slots up/down ... I will add the feature to copy complete set lists (or part of them) to another set list but this will take more time.

That sounds great! Built-in support would be awesome, ofcourse, but I'll have a look at your tool one of these days.

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