effects routing in sequencer

[helpcomputer]

Hi All,

I have a question about using effects on multiple tracks in the sequencer. When I have separate insert effects on two different midi tracks, when I go to use one track some of the effects seem to turn off on the other.

Please keep in mind that I have very limited knowledge of effects routing and what all that stuff is.

Thanks for your help

-Dan

[michelkeijzers]

I don't am sure for Kronos, but on other Korg synths, some effects use 2 effect slots (probably because they are asking more CPU power/memory than others). When you select such an effect (e.g. at IFX2), then the next slot (IFX3) will be 'empty' and cannot be selected.

[runningman67]

Make sure you check your routing. Its something your eyes get used to eventually. You can link effects, or not. It was easy to see on the Triton.
It looks a bit small and complicated on the Kronos. Just needs familiarisation I think.

What Michelkeijzers says is also possible. Worth double checking your routing and whats assigned to which track.

[helpcomputer]

I don't am sure for Kronos, but on other Korg synths, some effects use 2 effect slots (probably because they are asking more CPU power/memory than others). When you select such an effect (e.g. at IFX2), then the next slot (IFX3) will be 'empty' and cannot be selected.

Thanks for your response michel... I do not think this is the issue because on the routing screen on the kronos it gives you a visual diagram of what IFX slots are filled and i don't see any overlap.

[helpcomputer]

Make sure you check your routing. Its something your eyes get used to eventually. You can link effects, or not. It was easy to see on the Triton.
It looks a bit small and complicated on the Kronos. Just needs familiarisation I think.

What Michelkeijzers says is also possible. Worth double checking your routing and whats assigned to which track.

I think I am reading the diagram correctly, although i definitely could be wrong. But the effects signals from the two different tracks are not chained together/do not overlap anywhere, and seem to go to different L/R (buses? outputs?... not sure what it is )

Thanks

[runningman67]

I'll have a look at mine when I get in. I'll get back to you if I think I can help.

Some clever guys on here though that might pin point the problem immediately. Hope you get it sorted.

[helpcomputer]

I'll have a look at mine when I get in. I'll get back to you if I think I can help.

Some clever guys on here though that might pin point the problem immediately. Hope you get it sorted.

Thanks! I hope so! Thanks for your help, much appreciated

[Lou]

Hi All,

I have a question about using effects on multiple tracks in the sequencer. When I have separate insert effects on two different midi tracks, when I go to use one track some of the effects seem to turn off on the other.

I don't understand when you say "Seem" to turn off?
What do you actually see?

[helpcomputer]

Hi All,

I have a question about using effects on multiple tracks in the sequencer. When I have separate insert effects on two different midi tracks, when I go to use one track some of the effects seem to turn off on the other.

I don't understand when you say "Seem" to turn off?
What do you actually see?

Sorry, by that I mean certain effects seem to stay on (like delay) but others are off (like rotary). Sorry I can't remember the specific program that I'm referring to, I think it was called massive rotary or something. Basically the most important/coolest sounding effects on that patch disappear.

Thanks

[runningman67]

Are you copying effects from programme on to the sequencer?

Or getting the raw sound on the midi track and custom adding insert effects?

[helpcomputer]

Are you copying effects from programme on to the sequencer?

Or getting the raw sound on the midi track and custom adding insert effects?

I'm copying from program

[runningman67]

So your copying an organ patch onto the sequencer with its default insert effect?

Then adding another patch on the sequencer to, say midi channel 2? you want a different effect?
and its not registering maybe?

Try starting again with your arrangement. Add the organ patch in its dry state and then add your insert effect. Rotary.
Then add your next sound and add the insert effect 2 to your requirements. You must make sure you are routing correctly. Also bear in mind you might want to add some master effects, reverb etc, which can be added to every channel but also be tweaked.

I start with master effects and then work on my insert effects. You will develop your own work flow.


I hope I am making sense. I only usually 'copy effects from combi' as it is easier when recording combi patches.

It's alot to take in. I think its just down to familiarisation. Have a look at the factory demo songs and how they are routed.

Last thing. When you have sussed out your effects and sounds. Save the song as a template. It sets your next song up with the effects defaulted, so you have a good start with your composition.

I hope I have helped and not made trhings even more confusing.

Anybody else confirm or improve on what I've said for helpcomputer.

[helpcomputer]

So your copying an organ patch onto the sequencer with its default insert effect?

Then adding another patch on the sequencer to, say midi channel 2? you want a different effect?
and its not registering maybe?

Try starting again with your arrangement. Add the organ patch in its dry state and then add your insert effect. Rotary.
Then add your next sound and add the insert effect 2 to your requirements. You must make sure you are routing correctly. Also bear in mind you might want to add some master effects, reverb etc, which can be added to every channel but also be tweaked.

I start with master effects and then work on my insert effects. You will develop your own work flow.


I hope I am making sense. I only usually 'copy effects from combi' as it is easier when recording combi patches.

It's alot to take in. I think its just down to familiarisation. Have a look at the factory demo songs and how they are routed.

Last thing. When you have sussed out your effects and sounds. Save the song as a template. It sets your next song up with the effects defaulted, so you have a good start with your composition.

I hope I have helped and not made trhings even more confusing.

Anybody else confirm or improve on what I've said for helpcomputer.

Ok, I will try that again when i get home from work, esp checking out the demo songs, great advice. Thanks for all your help

[helpcomputer]

i guess i want to confirm that you can have insertion FX for separate midi tracks in the sequencer play simultaneously (while you record)

[runningman67]

i guess i want to confirm that you can have insertion FX for separate midi tracks in the sequencer play simultaneously (while you record)

Yes you can have multiple insert effects spread around the midi tracks. There is a limit but you can use lots. You can only record on one track at a time though unless you have copied a combi onto the sequencer. In which case the whole of the combo will play at once.

I think I'm right .