Korg R3 Vs Novation Ultranova Synth.

ravenmek · Post by **ravenmek** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:59 am

I disagree, Although they can sound "better", they don't have the inmediacy of a hardware digital synth.

dflan83 · Post by **dflan83** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:53 pm

The alesis micron\miniak is in fact a great synth. Very cool and very powerful and at the time I bought the radias, I was putting it up against the ion in terms of sound but for the features went with the radias. I now own both the radias and the miniak and couldnt be happier.

I think alesis could make a killing expanding on the engine of the miniak\micron and giving it some more features all packaged in a nice sized keyboard and dub it the ion 2

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:15 pm

YOU FAIL. Dude the Miniak and Micron suck compared to the Holy mother of all analog synths: The Alesis Andromeda! D: The ion is nothing compared to it.

ravenmek · Post by **ravenmek** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:29 pm

Morshu wrote:YOU FAIL. Dude the Miniak and Micron suck compared to the Holy mother of all analog synths: The Alesis Andromeda! D: The ion is nothing compared to it.

well, you could go to the first page of the thread and see your post recommending synths. What was the first synth you mentioned? And the Andromeda is an analog synth, while the Ion, the Micron and the Miniak are digital sustractive synths, so they are not very comparable. Nor you can compare them by their prices, you know?

axxim · Post by **axxim** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:08 am

ravenmek wrote:I disagree, Although they can sound "better", they don't have the inmediacy of a hardware digital synth.

Well I disagree with your desagreement

Actual synths are (mostly) all digital and de facto their sound engine is software which computes waveforms and therefore their quality lays in the form such computations are made. The sounds we hear on actal mediums are digital too. The main difference could be in the end stage which converts this numbers to airwaves and this could be good or bad on both. In my opinion, the most important feature is the interface to its player. Some HW synths are better because they offer good ways to perform and edit the sounds, others are a PITA to program or perform. A good VST with a good controller device can be as good as any digital HW synth and viceversa.
At least any wave and sound can be reproduced digitally.
In my opinion a very good realization of a soft synth is the Animoog even if I am not such a Moog fan (more or less than of other brands). The user interface is very good and offers new ways of perform and influence the sounds in a very simple and effective maner.

richardw · Post by **richardw** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:12 am

My reason for getting a VA synth vs. a DAW is a matter of portability and immediacy. I'm aware that internally a VA synth is software running on a dedicated computer with its own specific-to-purpose operating system feeding a signal to a DAC to make a signal for amplification. However, sitting down in front of a computer and starting up a DAW and then software (such as Rapture) requires many steps waiting for each application to boot-up and get ready. Is that a big deal? Not really. But there is something to be said for pushing an "ON" button and having a hardware synth (with a built-in keyboard) ready to go in about two seconds or so. I can also take my synth anywhere---with a pair of headphones and an outlet, I'm good to go. I like it.

ravenmek · Post by **ravenmek** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:54 am

axxim wrote:
ravenmek wrote:I disagree, Although they can sound "better", they don't have the inmediacy of a hardware digital synth.
Well I disagree with your desagreement
Actual synths are (mostly) all digital and de facto their sound engine is software which computes waveforms and therefore their quality lays in the form such computations are made. The sounds we hear on actal mediums are digital too. The main difference could be in the end stage which converts this numbers to airwaves and this could be good or bad on both. In my opinion, the most important feature is the interface to its player. Some HW synths are better because they offer good ways to perform and edit the sounds, others are a PITA to program or perform. A good VST with a good controller device can be as good as any digital HW synth and viceversa.
At least any wave and sound can be reproduced digitally.
In my opinion a very good realization of a soft synth is the Animoog even if I am not such a Moog fan (more or less than of other brands). The user interface is very good and offers new ways of perform and influence the sounds in a very simple and effective maner.

But I agree with you!

I mean, I think the HW synth is great because of its control and that you can plug and play everywhere!

CharlesFerraro · Post by **CharlesFerraro** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:09 am

Morshu wrote:the Holy mother of all analog synths: The Alesis Andromeda! D:

The Andromeda is sh!t compared to the Korg PS-3300.

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:46 pm

ravenmek wrote:I disagree, Although they can sound "better", they don't have the inmediacy of a hardware digital synth.

I was just trying to annoy Morshu. I have never used a VST. I have no opinion on them, but I think claiming either categorically better or worse than the other is dumb.

Eat-Static · Post by **Eat-Static** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:51 pm

I value Morshu's opinions, its not like he's talking out his ass. He has a wealth of knowledge that most of you are obviously jealous of.
He adds a charm to this forum, I mean who in their right mind would use a resource like korgforums to post real information based on personal experience. I much prefer reading comments based on rumors and fantasy.
I look forward to posts that stretch the imagination, and lets be frank Morshu's posts do push the boundaries.
All in all i think Morshu is very popular, and his membership here adds creditability to this site.

Eat Static ' #1 fan of Morshu'

PS I'm not feeling very well today

CharlesFerraro · Post by **CharlesFerraro** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:12 pm

Eat-Static wrote:his membership here adds creditability to this site.

I've written all the mods. No replies. Its like a weird joke.

ravenmek · Post by **ravenmek** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:14 pm

CharlesFerraro wrote:
Eat-Static wrote:his membership here adds creditability to this site.
I've written all the mods. No replies. Its like a weird joke.

I repeat: at least, ozzy was funny.

Re-Member · Post by **Re-Member** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:51 am

Eat-Static wrote:I look forward to posts that stretch the imagination, and lets be frank Morshu's posts do push the boundaries.

Morshu's posts are like conceptual art. There's an element of Surrealism that can be enjoyed by drinking a glass of fine Merlot, reading his posts, then proceeding to bash your head against a wall.

Eat-Static · Post by **Eat-Static** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:57 am

Re-Member wrote:Morshu's posts are like conceptual art. There's an element of Surrealism that can be enjoyed by drinking a glass of fine Merlot, reading his posts, then proceeding to bash your head against a wall.

Are we suggesting that Morshu is the 'Andy Warhol' of Korgforums ?

Doomy · Post by **Doomy** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:52 am

I think that there is no other explanation to the situation than that Morshu is the admin in disguise pulling our legs.