Any rumors about new stuff at NAMM 2012 ???

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:17 pm

Slovenec wrote:Korg at 2012 NAMM New Product Announcement- KRONOS STUDIO.

The Kronos is to be upgraded with new sequencer features from the M3 Xpanded and a lot of new audio editing features are also being added to the 16 track recorder including real time high quality time stretching and pitch shifting. Theres new EXIs including the MONO/POLY, FRT1 'Fretted Instruments' EXI with 4GB of new electric and acoustic guitar and bass sounds (looks like Korg have finally taken Yamaha to task here!). In addition, Korg has added other EXIs to emulate their older digital gear including M1, O1W, Trinity and Triton and they rumour has it that they may even develop a dedicated M3 EXI so they can drastically lower the 2nd hand price of these instruments! The keybed issues have FINALLY been taken care of and 4 keyboard configurations are available- 61 and 73 key semi weighted and 73 and 88 key fully weighted newly designed RH5 action (this action is so advanced that they had to skip calling it an RH4 action!). Stay tuned for more info as it comes to hand about this new top of the line workstation. Even better news: Original Kronos 'Classic' owners will be able to upgrade to the new version for a nominal charge (or speak to Dan Phillips or Jack Hotop and they'll get the upgrade for free if you shout them dinner and drinks!).

KORG KRONOS LE- A 'scaled down' Kronos Studio with no hard disk recorder or sampling but still retaining the HD1 CX3 EP1 SGX1 and AL EXIs (the AL is a scaled down version of the AL1 Kronos Engine). There's still a 16 track sequencer with and a smaller M3 type colour touch screen. Karma has been replaced with 4 arpeggiators.

KRONOS SOFTWARE EDITOR FOR KRONOS STUDIO & KRONOS LE- To be released very soon but if this doesn't occur, then stay tuned for any future announcements at NAMM 2013!

A no, my alarm clock has gone off and now I'm awake! IT WAS ALL A DREAM!!!!! :):):):):):):):)

Damn, for a moment I was psyched! Imagine if we actually GOT those EXis? That would KILL!

Crystalmsc · Post by **Crystalmsc** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:34 am

Hugo wrote:I disagree. Waldorf Pulse 2 and the Arturia synth alone make this a good NAMM

agree, this NAMM is a good one for synth, specially analog

Ahnyxrik · Post by **Ahnyxrik** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:22 am

Crystalmsc wrote:
Hugo wrote:I disagree. Waldorf Pulse 2 and the Arturia synth alone make this a good NAMM
agree, this NAMM is a good one for synth, specially analog

---IF YOU LIKE MONOPHONIC ANALOG SYNTHS!!!
The PULSE 2 at least has program memory! The MINITAUR & MINIBRUTE HAVE 0 PROGRAM MEMORY!! What is this? 1974??????
I don't want to "dial up" sounds between songs LIVE! LOL!!!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:08 am

Ahnyxrik wrote:
Crystalmsc wrote:
Hugo wrote:I disagree. Waldorf Pulse 2 and the Arturia synth alone make this a good NAMM
agree, this NAMM is a good one for synth, specially analog

---IF YOU LIKE MONOPHONIC ANALOG SYNTHS!!!
The PULSE 2 at least has program memory! The MINITAUR & MINIBRUTE HAVE 0 PROGRAM MEMORY!! What is this? 1974??????
I don't want to "dial up" sounds between songs LIVE! LOL!!!

My thoughts exactly. Although the MiniBrute looks good fun, I'd prefer to get the Pulse2 exactly for this reason.

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:17 am

The whole point of these instruments is NOT to save presets - but to create sound live, to experiment, to tweak. It may not be for you; but it’s a completely valid approach to sound design and synthesis.

Having program memory utterly transforms such an instrument psychologically - you start to want to save your sounds - but with no memories you have no choice but to continually create, reinvent and live with the inexact nature of the beast. It's altogether different and in many ways hugely creative, alive and compelling.

So I heartedly recommend that all setups should have a mixture of synths with presets for what that offers, and at least one synth / module that's 100% analogue, absolutely with no presets and totally tweak-able.

You will not regret it - I promise you. You do not have to compromise here because your other instruments do all the saving you want - but you ARE opening up an entire new world of live, uncertain, creative sound generation. You have the best of both worlds - it's worth it.

And I mean it - do NOT get one with preset locations. You utterly shift your mindset to saving / containing your sounds if you do. It MUST NOT have presets.

Get the Monotribe - it's excellent in this regard - exquisite analogue electronics, hugely tweak-able and has a vast number of creative, original, quirky applications in all sorts of projects that Kronos, Jupiter 80 or even a Waldorf can never provide.

You deserve it all !!!!

So my point (again) - having no presets is a conscious decision that frees you and points you towards a whole different mindset - exhilarating !!

Kevin.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:36 am

I think you have a good point in having a synth without presets.

As long as the number of parameters is reasonably small and it is easy to change (i.e. enough controllers and a clear function of what each parameter does) than it can be a creative tool.

Crystalmsc · Post by **Crystalmsc** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:49 am

Kevin Nolan wrote:The whole point of these instruments is NOT to save presets - but to create sound live, to experiment, to tweak. It may not be for you; but it’s a completely valid approach to sound design and synthesis.

Get the Monotribe - it's excellent in this regard - exquisite analogue electronics, hugely tweak-able and has a vast number of creative, original, quirky applications in all sorts of projects that Kronos, Jupiter 80 or even a Waldorf can never provide.

nice point of view and I really enjoy my Monotribe and other synths with no presets

nitecrawler · Post by **nitecrawler** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:53 am

+1 My Mini-Moog, analogue with no presets as well.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:48 pm

It works in a studio environment perhaps, but when you're playing live and you need to play the same song every night, it gets a bit impractical to have to entirely reprogram the entire synth between songs.
That is, if you really are into sound design and performance, then you may have several entirely different sounds from the same synthesizer in adjacent songs. I know I would.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:59 pm

So my point (again) - having no presets is a conscious decision that frees you and points you towards a whole different mindset - exhilarating !!

Very, very well said, Kevin!

Even if you must perform the same song, whats the harm in something sounding slightly different every time? THink about the great acts throughout the 20th century. Many bands/artists always switch up some part of their song. Its very rare you hear something live thats identical to the studio recording. Usually it will be a different solo, different rhythm, but also different equipment might be used, such as different amps, effects, that always gives a fresh new sound.

Me personally, I'd rather listen to something unique and dynamic every time.

CharlesFerraro · Post by **CharlesFerraro** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:45 am

Kevin Nolan wrote:having no presets is a conscious decision that frees you and points you towards a whole different mindset - exhilarating !!

Kevin.

or just have the mental capacity to not save

everyone tweaks, thats why we love synths. really not seeing your point here. who gets a synth and doesn't freely mess with it for hours?? its part of the territory

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:44 pm

Not a single word from Yamaha and Kay about their KARMA for MOTIF ..

It was supposed to be released at NAMM this year.

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:26 pm

Bachus wrote:Not a single word from Yamaha and Kay about their KARMA for MOTIF ..

It was supposed to be released at NAMM this year.

Yeah, I'm really surprised. Stephen had a basic demo at last year's NAMM and (I thought) had stated on his website that KARMA for the Motif would be finished for 2012.

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:22 pm

I think Arturia's MiniBrute might just become a sales hit (low price - analog quality - portability).

After the analog revival at NAMM all we need now is a renaissance of the analog tape-based multitracks and a major comeback of the vinyl LP, and the circle is complete.

csteen · Post by **csteen** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:14 am

Synthoid wrote:
Bachus wrote:Not a single word from Yamaha and Kay about their KARMA for MOTIF ..

It was supposed to be released at NAMM this year.
Yeah, I'm really surprised. Stephen had a basic demo at last year's NAMM and (I thought) had stated on his website that KARMA for the Motif would be finished for 2012.

I do not own a yamaha for use with Karma, but I just got it for my KORG M50 and can assure you that it is one wonderfully wild piece of software. I can only imagine what kind of work goes into developing this thing. Remember that patience is a virtue and this software will be well worth waiting for I can assure you. I know Stephen has put a lot of his time and effort into it and is working hard to get everything working properly, If he put it out prior to it being ready everyone would then have something to complain about lol. All good KARMA comes to those who wait in other words.