Combo Mode Split Patch Volume

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Combo Mode Split Patch Volume

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I'm trying to set the M3 up for piano on the top and brass in the bass, simple stuff really. I use the Ms exclusively for live performance and like to run the patch volumes "hot" as I use a small amp for monitor purposes only. My problem is the piano patch, the M3 is the expanded version. I can't get it loud enough despite cranking all possible levels. The patch I use is much louder in Prog mode, in combo mode it's rather weak. I suspect I'm missing one crucial parameter to adjust, I realize that combo mode is probably limited to some degree so you don't drive it into distortion. Any ideas?
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I would begin by checking the IFX, MFX, and TFX settings. I would also check the EQ. And then I'd make sure nothing was changed in the Tone Adjust settings for the piano timbre.
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And if you like a hot output you might try a compressor effect as MFX.
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Post by bamboozer »

Good idea, but it leaves unanswered the primary question of why the patch volume in combo is so reduced from the prog patch. I will battle on.
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No need to battle on. You could help us help you by explaining exactly which programs you're using (if they are presets) and how you set up the Combi. Do the effects match those of the piano or brass program? Alternatively, you could upload the Combi somewhere and let us look at it...

One thing you might try is a starting a new combi and copying in all of the settings from the piano program using the Copy from Program command. Then create your split with the brass program. For instance, I've just tried this and I noticed no appreciable reduction in output levels for the piano when I created a split with a brass program. I used IA 23 - 3way Piano EX (I think that's what its called) as the basis for creating a Combi.

There's a great post by Dan Philips of Korg around here somewhere (or I'm sure I've read one anyway) that explains how a keyboard works when layering or playing multiple sounds at once. Technically, if I recall correctly, the volume of all of the programs will be reduced in the amplifier stage otherwise the output would be way too hot, but their relative loudness will be perceptibly the same. In other words, you shouldn't hear a difference.

Anyway, it's not clear from your posts if the piano's volume is lower when only played by itself or when playing the other brass part at the same time. I assuming the former.... but no idea and not sure how to help you just yet.
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