4gb RAM with the new os 2.0

alex_none · Post by **alex_none** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:26 am

Hi everybody,
I very excited about the new os 2.0 for our wonderful instrument. I was just trying to figure out if a rumor I heard from a friend of mine can be true.
He brought his k61 to a korg service center to have a 2gb memory upgrade installed some weeks ago (4gb total). In that occasion he was told not to worry about the 3gb ram actual limitation of os 1.6 because the next upgrade would allow the kronos to see and use the full 4gb.

Can this be true? This would be a great improvement in my opinion, the perfect one to couple with the new huge sound library streaming functionality for the user.

And if I can dream... what about a sequencer enchacement, like the m3?

Cheers,

Alex

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:08 am

alex_none wrote:Hi everybody,
I very excited about the new os 2.0 for our wonderful instrument. I was just trying to figure out if a rumor I heard from a friend of mine can be true.
He brought his k61 to a korg service center to have a 2gb memory upgrade installed some weeks ago (4gb total). In that occasion he was told not to worry about the 3gb ram actual limitation of os 1.6 because the next upgrade would allow the kronos to see and use the full 4gb.

Can this be true?

No, sorry.

domc · Post by **domc** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:19 am

Dan, I notice you've gone to the trouble of cutting out the reference to a sequencer enhancement before saying 'no'.

Does this mean we can expect the long awaited (7 years for us Oasys owners) sequencer enhancement as well? That would really get me excited.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:22 am

domc wrote:Dan, I notice you've gone to the trouble of cutting out the reference to a sequencer enhancement before saying 'no'.

Does this mean we can expect the long awaited (7 years for us Oasys owners) sequencer enhancement as well? That would really get me excited.

I responded to the part of the message that seemed like a question. I generally edit quotes in this way. No deeper meaning, sorry!

Niblit · Post by **Niblit** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:22 pm

Well I've just planted another 2Gb RAM in my Kronos, (4Gb total) just I case it will one day be useable.

By the way, for anyone interested, I simply went to PC World and got it off the shelf for about £24 squids. It took less than 10 minutes to install and everything is just sweet.

Now... I just need loads of freebies to fill it up

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:40 pm

Dan, can you please clarify what this means?:

User Sample Banks let you create your own high-capacity sample libraries.
Added in Kronos OS v2.0, User Sample Banks bring the benefits of KORG’s EXs to your own custom sample libraries. You can load and play many gigabytes of your custom or converted samples at once, using the internal SSD. Disk and memory management is also improved: you can create subsets of User Sample Banks, and mix and match parts of different banks, without duplicating samples on disk.

Is it for beginers that dont know nothing about Sampling and think that they
will really get MANY GBs of Sampling or it still means they are stuck with the
180MB or so Sampling but this is just nicely put words for for the 1GB of Sampling?

Thanks

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:52 pm

BasariStudios wrote:Dan, can you please clarify what this means?:

User Sample Banks let you create your own high-capacity sample libraries.
Added in Kronos OS v2.0, User Sample Banks bring the benefits of KORG’s EXs to your own custom sample libraries. You can load and play many gigabytes of your custom or converted samples at once, using the internal SSD. Disk and memory management is also improved: you can create subsets of User Sample Banks, and mix and match parts of different banks, without duplicating samples on disk.
Is it for beginers that dont know nothing about Sampling and think that they
will really get MANY GBs of Sampling or it still means they are stuck with the
180MB or so Sampling but this is just nicely put words for for the 1GB of Sampling?

Thanks

Your question seems to imply that we're trying to be deceptive, which I'll admit bothers me. Please let me know if this was not your intent.

Software version 2.0 includes a feature called User Sample Banks. User Sample Banks have a few significant benefits, one of which is that they can use VMT. You can create your own libraries using the max available RAM (about 2GB), save them to disk, and then - depending on how well the content is suited to VMT - load a number of those libraries at once.

What content is well-suited to VMT? Each VMT sample takes up the same amount of RAM, regardless of the sample's length. So, the longer the individual samples, the more reduction in RAM usage you'll get.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:17 pm

danatkorg wrote: What content is well-suited to VMT? Each VMT sample takes up the same amount of RAM, regardless of the sample's length. So, the longer the individual samples, the more reduction in RAM usage you'll get.

The reason is that from each sample a fixed amount of the start of the sample has to be remain in RAM before the SSD catches up while reading I assume?

If so, it's a very neat solution; and it saves a lot of RAM memory this way.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:18 pm

domc wrote:
Does this mean we can expect the long awaited (7 years for us Oasys owners) sequencer enhancement as well?

domc wrote: That would really get me excited.

+1

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:28 am

Thanks for the Clarification and no, that was not my intent, i was simply confused of the concept.

Asena · Post by **Asena** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:13 am

guys , how much sample ram can a kronos heave,

1jordyzzz · Post by **1jordyzzz** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:32 am

Asena wrote:guys , how much sample ram can a kronos heave,

AFAIK max 2 gb for EX's, some EXi and user samples

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:47 am

michelkeijzers wrote:
danatkorg wrote: What content is well-suited to VMT? Each VMT sample takes up the same amount of RAM, regardless of the sample's length. So, the longer the individual samples, the more reduction in RAM usage you'll get.
The reason is that from each sample a fixed amount of the start of the sample has to be remain in RAM before the SSD catches up while reading I assume?

If so, it's a very neat solution; and it saves a lot of RAM memory this way.

Correct.

A good example of VMT hard at work on a massive piano would be.....

If you take the 1.6GB piano rs.felicio uploaded a few days ago and you set that to stream, the actual amount of RAM you need free is only 75MB.

lol... How amazing is that. 1.6GB becomes 75MB

Regards
Sharp.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:09 am

Those of us who have spent hours, days, weeks even, to create our own sample banks... will we have to re-compile them somehow, or will they just automatically adjust for VMT use when we load our KSC's?

Seriously looking forward to V.2, as user streaming has been No. 1 on my wish list from the day I bought the K.

MonoPoly EX is No. 2 on my list...

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:45 am

Those of us who have spent hours, days, weeks even, to create our own sample banks... will we have to re-compile them somehow, or will they just automatically adjust for VMT use when we load our KSC's?

Yes, but it only takes a moment to turn a normal sample library into a VMT library. It's very quick and very easy.

Regards
Sharp

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