Tutorials?

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:13 am

Does anyone have any tips or better yet links on places to go for learning more (without actually having to go on a course) about any of the following subjects:
- VB or C++ .NET - I used to program in VB but I find .NET bewildering. Nothing works! you can't even put a number in a text box or vice versa without explicitly knowing the command to convert the two types. Seems like Microsoft has taken the 'basic' out of Visual Basic.
- Audio plugin programming with JUCE (mac or PC, preferably both). I've done a bit of AU programming at uni and I'm familiar with all those technical aspects. Its just actually getting a project together that I struggle with.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:27 pm

DotNetRocks is a great podcast that has a huge amount of info, particularly if you go back to listen to all the prior shows that are relevant to what you're doing.

Four Guys from Rolla is another great source.
http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/welcomead/

I highly recommend C#.net instead of VB.NET or C++.net for new programmers.

Bald Eagle · Post by **Bald Eagle** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:02 pm

Wrox Press has some very good books for learning everything .NET.

http://www.wrox.com

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:43 am

If you don't know much about DotNet, buy a simple book and later a reference or more detailed book.

Internet contains a lot of information, but if you start fresh a book that shows the relations between all aspects of programming is best.

Basell · Post by **Basell** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:26 pm

I think O'Reilly manuals are the best for this. I also like w3schools.com for online-learning, but I'm not sure there're such courses that you need.

andersborg · Post by **andersborg** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:02 pm

X-Trade wrote:Does anyone have any tips or better yet links on places to go for learning more (without actually having to go on a course) about any of the following subjects:
- VB or C++ .NET - I used to program in VB but I find .NET bewildering. Nothing works! you can't even put a number in a text box or vice versa without explicitly knowing the command to convert the two types. Seems like Microsoft has taken the 'basic' out of Visual Basic.
- Audio plugin programming with JUCE (mac or PC, preferably both). I've done a bit of AU programming at uni and I'm familiar with all those technical aspects. Its just actually getting a project together that I struggle with.

Just a personal opinion, but I find both C# and VB very easy to work with, especially VB due to the excellent "no odd symbols" syntax. I just type, and fast. No need to worry about indentation levels, "{}" etc. The step from VB6 to VB.NET was rather painful though. Anyway...

I extensively use the documentation in VS, via popups and searching through documentation. Microsoft is relatively good at providing working examples with each class definition, which is a good starting point. The examples can though be a bit too esoteric.

For online tutorials, a few suggestions:
http://www.vbtutor.net/
http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/net/vbnet.html
(frankly I just googled

)

Cheers,
Anders

manouchehrmail · Post by **manouchehrmail** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:13 pm

I want to develop my own application to read different file types which make a SET; for example reading out all information from "STY", "PCG", "PRF", "PCM", "PAD", "KMP", "GBL", and "VOC" files.
Where to ask for detailed information about this topic. Please do not refer me to the regional distributors in Germany because although I live in Germany but I want to get English support.

I would appreciate any guide, documentation, or correct contact person to ask.

Best Regards,
Manu

amit · Post by **amit** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:27 am

Most of these file formats are proprietary and undocumented for general public so it's going to impossible to give you a clear answer.
Some users have had success contacting the manufacturers for the information (after signing NDA most likely) so they are unlikely going to be any help either.

You could try reverse engineering the file format if you have patience and a good hold on data format deciphering but that too may leave you with incomplete specs, it's always worth a try. I have done that quite a lot in the past with varying degrees of success, depending on the intent and the target.

I would first start finding the product manuals and looking towards end, if there are some file format descriptors provided.

Good Luck.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:53 am

For the PCG file format, your first documentation is the detailed MIDI documentation that comes with each model. For most models these can be downloaded (exception: Oasys), the Kronos documentation is part of the DVD that comes with it, most others can be downloaded.

Also, in case of doubt: make a small change, save the (PCG or other) file again and diff them to know where the differences are. This can be very time consuming though.

manouchehrmail · Post by **manouchehrmail** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:50 am

Thanks for the prompt replies. I will check the MIDI docs and I am trying to contact them and I have no problem to sign NDA. My target devices are PA series however. I don't know if there are similarities between them and other series.
Let's see. I appreciate your time again.

BR
Manu

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:10 pm

manouchehrmail wrote:Thanks for the prompt replies. I will check the MIDI docs and I am trying to contact them and I have no problem to sign NDA. My target devices are PA series however. I don't know if there are similarities between them and other series.
Let's see. I appreciate your time again.

BR
Manu

I found your other post and answered there (short answer: they are far from the same, probably).

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