Is the M3 truly discontinued?

apex · Post by **apex** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:26 am

gurn wrote:
The M3m is really a one-of-a-kind piece of gear.

YES IT IS!!!!

apex · Post by **apex** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:29 am

michelkeijzers wrote:
biggrime wrote:
Dogmatic1010 wrote:Maybe theres already a topic for this but is the M3 truly in the dust with the Triton? The 61, 73, and 88-keys that is. I think the Kronos replaces it, but I'm not sure. I've tried to look up if it is but have been unsuccessful in doing so.

Any ideas?
I think the M3 is still a good seller for korg and Kronos is not doing as well. Why do I say that? Why in the hell do they push the Microkorg like its new. They need the money lol if Kronos was doing so well I can't see them pushing a old synth. Yea Microkorg is a cool synth but jeeezz. For me it does not matter whether the M3 is discontinued or not. Korg will not give us anything new. If they do stop selling it new only will mean the value of the M3 goes down and korg will be come out with cut down versions of Kronos
I think the MicroKorg is for another audience. And M3 is more or less comparable with a Kronos.

GRIME... i have to disagree with you on this one... The Kronos sales wouldn't have much to do with how they market other gear. They are trying to make money... and there are multiple pieces of gear that allow them to do that.

There are people that would buy a Kronos and wouldn't EVEN consider a MicroKorg (like me) and then there are people that would love to purchase a microKorg, but have NO means or NO use for a Kronos....

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:33 pm

apex wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:
biggrime wrote: I think the M3 is still a good seller for korg and Kronos is not doing as well. Why do I say that? Why in the hell do they push the Microkorg like its new. They need the money lol if Kronos was doing so well I can't see them pushing a old synth. Yea Microkorg is a cool synth but jeeezz. For me it does not matter whether the M3 is discontinued or not. Korg will not give us anything new. If they do stop selling it new only will mean the value of the M3 goes down and korg will be come out with cut down versions of Kronos
I think the MicroKorg is for another audience. And M3 is more or less comparable with a Kronos.
GRIME... i have to disagree with you on this one... The Kronos sales wouldn't have much to do with how they market other gear. They are trying to make money... and there are multiple pieces of gear that allow them to do that.

There are people that would buy a Kronos and wouldn't EVEN consider a MicroKorg (like me) and then there are people that would love to purchase a microKorg, but have NO means or NO use for a Kronos....

I also haven't even considered a MicroKorg ... maybe my explanation was not really good but I meant it also like you say.

biggrime · Post by **biggrime** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:30 am

apex wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:
biggrime wrote: I think the M3 is still a good seller for korg and Kronos is not doing as well. Why do I say that? Why in the hell do they push the Microkorg like its new. They need the money lol if Kronos was doing so well I can't see them pushing a old synth. Yea Microkorg is a cool synth but jeeezz. For me it does not matter whether the M3 is discontinued or not. Korg will not give us anything new. If they do stop selling it new only will mean the value of the M3 goes down and korg will be come out with cut down versions of Kronos
I think the MicroKorg is for another audience. And M3 is more or less comparable with a Kronos.
GRIME... i have to disagree with you on this one... The Kronos sales wouldn't have much to do with how they market other gear. They are trying to make money... and there are multiple pieces of gear that allow them to do that.

There are people that would buy a Kronos and wouldn't EVEN consider a MicroKorg (like me) and then there are people that would love to purchase a microKorg, but have NO means or NO use for a Kronos....

I did not say korg was trying to sell the microkorg to Kronos buyers. Ofcourse if people had a choice they would choose Kronos but, its easier to get people to pay $399 vs $2999

shefu · Post by **shefu** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:55 am

As long as the M3-M will remain their only "rack" workstation option, I don't think they'll discontinue it just yet and why should they?

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:13 am

apex wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:
biggrime wrote: I think the M3 is still a good seller for korg and Kronos is not doing as well. Why do I say that? Why in the hell do they push the Microkorg like its new. They need the money lol if Kronos was doing so well I can't see them pushing a old synth. Yea Microkorg is a cool synth but jeeezz. For me it does not matter whether the M3 is discontinued or not. Korg will not give us anything new. If they do stop selling it new only will mean the value of the M3 goes down and korg will be come out with cut down versions of Kronos
I think the MicroKorg is for another audience. And M3 is more or less comparable with a Kronos.
GRIME... i have to disagree with you on this one... The Kronos sales wouldn't have much to do with how they market other gear. They are trying to make money... and there are multiple pieces of gear that allow them to do that.

There are people that would buy a Kronos and wouldn't EVEN consider a MicroKorg (like me) and then there are people that would love to purchase a microKorg, but have NO means or NO use for a Kronos....

I think our opinions are the same unless I misunderstand (soi I don't u nerstand the disagree, what you write looks very similar like what I wrote.

drama1 · Post by **drama1** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:14 pm

Read on another forum the M3 is gone. Even Sweetwater does not carry it is my understanding.

The question is, will there be a replacement? Surely the Krome is for the M50 customers. The Kronos is the flagship like the Oasys was the flagship when M3 was introduced. Maybe an M4? Here's hoping.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:43 pm

Of course its gone, soon Kronos will be gone too.

gjvti · Post by **gjvti** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:46 pm

shefu wrote:As long as the M3-M will remain their only "rack" workstation option, I don't think they'll discontinue it just yet and why should they?

M3-M is not quite a rack as we know it fitting in standard 19" space

billbaker wrote:...finally keep the generalist (M3/Oasys) rompler. No sampling (sorry guys)...

This is Krome then

Actually I do not see the space for M3 or M4 workstation here among Krome and Kronos, but yes I said the same when Korg announced Kronos and I was wrong. Maybe Kronos LE? M3 is here since 2007 so in 2013 it will be 6 years since it's announcement. Anyway we will see what happens next after 'end of the world' fails again

jwillis35 · Post by **jwillis35** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:40 pm

I honestly believe both the M3 and the M3M have come to the end of their production with Korg. Nothing wrong with that. The first M3 rolled off the line in 2007, and the expanded version in 2009, so the board has been around a long while.

As long as Korg continues some support for the board that would be great. I'm not talking OS updates or new sounds. I think 3rd party folks will always come up with some new sounds for this workstation. But if Korg just keeps buttons and various parts around that we might need in the future for repairs then I would be happy with that.

As for what is next. I actually do not think they will put something between the Kronos and Krome. Prices for the Kronos will eventually come down. The Kronos 61 can be bought brand new for $2700 to $2800. Honestly, if you purchased the M3 for $1899, then upgraded the RAM, then bought the Radias card, that alone was close to $2400. If you purchased the EXB FW then you likely spend close to $2800 on your board (which I have).

So really the Kronos will simply occupy the high end and the Krome will occupy the mid-level market.

Also, I am really impressed with the Krome. If you don't need sampling, Karma, or the Radias card, then Krome is the way to go. It makes for a killer sketch pad for composing, arranging, orchestrating, and it's a really nice board for live shows. Korg really improved the screen resolution and features, and the sounds on Krome are top notch.

Vangelismusic · Post by **Vangelismusic** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:41 am

It's a shame that KORG came out with the Trinity then the Triton series and M3and alot of smaller in between and one synth was a little bit better then the other and then they came out with the KRONOS, 50 times better then the M3, that's how I feel, about that low blow,

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:28 pm

Vangelismusic wrote:It's a shame that KORG came out with the Trinity then the Triton series and M3and alot of smaller in between and one synth was a little bit better then the other and then they came out with the KRONOS, 50 times better then the M3, that's how I feel, about that low blow,

I know it's hard to predict when manufacturers release their new products and what is inside.

However, it would be too bad if you really bought the trinity, Triton and M3. If you noticed there is not much different, I don't buy it. E.g. I have A Triton Extreme, M50 (I think the 16 timbres/combi iso 8 is a world of difference) and now the Kronos (and yes, this really is a big improvement). I will check for each new synth if I want to buy it, however since I will have a big financial loss lately it can take a lot of years before being able to buy a full fledged synth.

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:50 pm

No Musical Instruments last for ever but I hope my Kronos does my M3M lasted for many years my 01w fd I had for 13 years with no problems at all.
So even when they cease production you can nearly always get spares for them.

Vangelismusic · Post by **Vangelismusic** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:44 pm

lotty1 wrote:No Musical Instruments last for ever but I hope my Kronos does my M3M lasted for many years my 01w fd I had for 13 years with no problems at all.
So even when they cease production you can nearly always get spares for them.

Not really, I have a GEM WK8 and I can't find the Rotary Encoder for tempo dial and my keyboard is as good as DEAD, looked high and low

lotty1 · Post by **lotty1** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:14 pm

michelkeijzers wrote:
biggrime wrote:
Dogmatic1010 wrote:Maybe theres already a topic for this but is the M3 truly in the dust with the Triton? The 61, 73, and 88-keys that is. I think the Kronos replaces it, but I'm not sure. I've tried to look up if it is but have been unsuccessful in doing so.

Any ideas?
I think the M3 is still a good seller for korg and Kronos is not doing as well. Why do I say that? Why in the hell do they push the Microkorg like its new. They need the money lol if Kronos was doing so well I can't see them pushing a old synth. Yea Microkorg is a cool synth but jeeezz. For me it does not matter whether the M3 is discontinued or not. Korg will not give us anything new. If they do stop selling it new only will mean the value of the M3 goes down and korg will be come out with cut down versions of Kronos
I think the MicroKorg is for another audience. And M3 is more or less comparable with a Kronos.

I had an M3 there is a lot of difference between sound samples piano etc
It feels more akin to the Oasys rather than M3. This is my opinion for what it worth.

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