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Greg!! LOL!!!

Dude, I just got off the phone with Honda...they didn't recognize my Korg model number! Haha...imagine that!

Potty! You don't have a wife??? ALL the more reason you might want one!


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UCanDream wrote:Greg!! LOL!!!

Dude, I just got off the phone with Honda...they didn't recognize my Korg model number! Haha...imagine that!

Potty! You don't have a wife??? ALL the more reason you might want one!


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Hahaha...

It seems we got off topic.

All good from here. (But I'm not paying for bandwidth.)



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I would like point out that I played a Yamaha S80 for over 10 years. The school where I teach also had an S80 for most of that time.

On both of those instruments, I needed to check the screws on the bottom from time to time. When I would forget to check, one would occasionally fall out. It's not just Korg instruments that have the problem.

I'm not sure that it's completely unreasonable that the screws might loosen over time. The instrument is flexed when moved and vibrates when sound is created, from both the pounding of the keys and perhaps from sympathetic vibration from speakers. Over time, this is bound to effect the tightness of screws.
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Screws coming out of keyboards seems to be fairly common. Every Motif 8 that goes through my shop has missing screws. I have a box of replacements just for that model!

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geoelectro wrote:Screws coming out of keyboards seems to be fairly common. Every Motif 8 that goes through my shop has missing screws. I have a box of replacements just for that model!
Geo
If i remember correctly there is a product called 'Locktit' for that purpose. i.e. securing screws.
Maybe manufacturers should use it? ;)
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Saxifraga wrote:
geoelectro wrote:Screws coming out of keyboards seems to be fairly common. Every Motif 8 that goes through my shop has missing screws. I have a box of replacements just for that model!
Geo
If i remember correctly there is a product called 'Locktit' for that purpose. i.e. securing screws.
Maybe manufacturers should use it? ;)
You might want to add an 'e' on the end of that 'Locktit' ;-)
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Hi, Saxifraga.

Yeah, here in the U.S., that product is "Locktite" with a 'long "i," sounding like "eye."

Oddly, IMHO, some have chimed in and it seemed to me that they did not read the thread in its entirety. I did explain the two commonly used types of locking washers to secure screws.

So, Sax, even though I appreciate your input, you have raised a serious concern. Why is the consumer expected to remove screws, apply a glue, and screw the whole thing back together again? FFS, I didn't purchase a synth kit. It was SUPPOSED to be already assembled. Do you guys seriously not understand the implication here?

IF screws are falling off from the exterior, are they also falling off inside?

Geoelectro noted that "Screws coming out of keyboards seems to be fairly common." Sorry...no! That is a total misnomer. I have an Ensoniq SD-1 and it is tight! The 01/W Pro is not coming apart either. I've owned both synth since the early 90s. Over 2 decades, I have been repairing synths and rarely have I seen screws just 'hanging there.'

Danmusician said, "I'm not sure that it's completely unreasonable that the screws might loosen over time. The instrument is flexed when moved and vibrates when sound is created, from both the pounding of the keys and perhaps from sympathetic vibration from speakers. Over time, this is bound to effect the tightness of screws." Yep...I totally agree. This is not only plausible, it is probable.

For the record, I can say honestly that I have played my KX73 less than 40 hours. See why I am in such a huff?

And guys, before you tell me to calm down, it's only a screw...I am calm. I am just posting this to alert the group. I do NOT want to have to spend $3700 on a frigging synth and be expected to THEN go out and buy "Locktit" (lol...I want to try a tube...the connotation!!! LOL) and reassemble my purchase!


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You might want to add an 'e' on the end of that 'Locktit' Wink
LOL...indeed

Off topic, I am not doing my "quotes" correctly. Sorry. Are there instructions on the site?


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Post by SanderXpander »

The Motifs at the music school I work at have loose screws from time to time and they hardly ever get moved, just played. I think this is normal behavior from vibration. It's annoying but hardly a big deal.
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Agreed...no bid deal.

But my X has maybe 30 hours playtime (LOL...that sounds humorous!) Being funny aside, I only was wondering why there was such a noise when I played in the studio.

Thanks to all for the quick and easy insight and help. It wasn't really an ordeal. I just didn't know. And Korg have been fraught with action issues.

Enough said, besides my thanks.


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UCanDream wrote:. It wasn't really an ordeal.


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Greg.


Here ----> **kick**


LOL...I know, buddy. I'm a slow learner. Still (Oh gosh! Here I go), for 3700 dollars, can the manufacturer put it together like the picture shows? You know...like the advertisement photos that don't have a bunch of bolts and screws all hanging out? Remember??



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David

I agree with you.

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Thoraldus wrote:
Saxifraga wrote:
geoelectro wrote:Screws coming out of keyboards seems to be fairly common. Every Motif 8 that goes through my shop has missing screws. I have a box of replacements just for that model!
Geo
If i remember correctly there is a product called 'Locktit' for that purpose. i.e. securing screws.
Maybe manufacturers should use it? ;)
You might want to add an 'e' on the end of that 'Locktit' ;-)
Locktit does sound better though ;)
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