backup + system update

stefdza90 · Post by **stefdza90** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:15 pm

Hello everyone! I'm new to workstations so i'd like to ask for help from more experienced users...

1) How do i make data backup from Triton?
2) My system is currently 2.1.1 and I'd like to update it to the latest one and reset to factory settings. I've already downloaded both zips from Korg support. Any hints about possible problems?
3) Is there any way to delete combi/program from list and how can i save new ones?

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:36 pm

1) I think the Triton has a CF card slot? or disk? You can save a (full) PCG file on such card/disk to backup all programs, combis and set list slots.

2) I am almost sure that when you download the latest OS there is some text file with warnings and a full description how to perform the upgrade.

3) I am not understand what you mean with this question ... which list do you mean? If you mean the PCG file contents ... you can overwrite or initialize programs/combis. If you need more than available, you can just save a PCG file and load another one (or change it and save it).

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:10 pm

....what MK said,

1) Back-ups are handled on the DISK menu. You'll need to push that button to get to the menu. Then look for the save functions... it'll step you through the process. Although you can choose to make only a partial back-up (saving only program banks for instance) you want to check all boxes and make a full back-up.

2) Just follow the prompts exactly. If you've saved to several disks in order to load, make sure that they go in in the correct order. Loading from computer I don't think there's an issue because everything loads as a block.

3) I think what you're asking about is called INITIALIZING in korg-speak (see the manuals) and does not leave a blank (zero data) but a starting point program that provides enough data so that you start with sound. The first wave in ROM is piano, so everything will sound like a wimpy and particularly bland GM piano, and will be a piano/keyboard in the category select, also because piano is the first category.

All of the program and combis may be erased, overwritten, saved to a different locations or tweaked... there are no "hard written" presets as there are in Roland and Yamaha keyboards. Everything is fluid.

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I think many of the functions you want to do can be performed using a librarian. MK happens to be the author of a very good one for Triton - PCG Tools. Send him a private message and get it. I lets you do a ton of functions, faster and graphically without ever touching your keyboard.

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JollyJ · Post by **JollyJ** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:28 am

I have been looking into backing up my Korg Triton Classic also, which I thought would be as easy as getting a SCSI to USB adapter, plugging in an HD and going to the save tab of the disk menu. But I don't see anything about backing up anywhere in the disk menu. What am I missing?

Also, will a SCSI to USB adapter work in this fashion?

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:50 pm

...probably because it's not called "back-up" but "save to disk". That presumes your ability to slip a floppy into your computer once you've saved a .pcg file.

I've not tried to link a classic to computer for saving set-up data -- i've just done it using disks. Way simple. Easier for Extreme users because there's port for a USB key that can be used to save .pcg files directly.

If you don't have a floppy drive they're available as a USB periferal device for about $20 US from a computer or office store.

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JollyJ · Post by **JollyJ** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:38 pm

Oh... I was under the impression that there was a system wide backup option.

I tried to simply open each sequencer file and save to 3.5 floppies, but they fill up very quickly; I can only get around 3-5 sequences on a single disk. I have many sequences, so this would result in an unwieldy pile of floppies, or the unwieldy extra step of getting them from floppies to computer and then back again if needed.

I'm going to try using a SCSI to USB adapter with a USB external HD and see if it works. I did notice that the disk menu recognizes DOS style wild cards, so I'm hoping I can save * to disk and get everything in one fell swoop.

Thanks for the reply

LZ · Post by LZ » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:15 pm

Do you need to use the disk with anything else besides the Triton? If not, why not just look for an old SCSI drive on ebay or something? I still have my Jaz drive that I got back in the day. They also had the smaller zip drives, and you may be able to find other external fixed SCSI drives.

belmontdrew · Post by **belmontdrew** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:14 pm

I have a Triton Classic (the Pro 76 key) and I want to backup the sounds I have created and saved onto the Triton's Programs "E" bank. Can you dump pcg files from the midi out on Triton to midi in on a computer? What is the simplest/easiest software one might use on the computer to just simply receive the midi data pcg info and allow me to just save it somewhere on the computer to back my sounds up? I'm computer savvy, but not in the sense of having tons of experience with synths AND computers. Thanks!

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:32 pm

@ belmontdrew,

Not sure about the MIDI interface thing. I just never bothered with it - here's why.

There are 2 or 3 good librarians for PC and one for Java that can do much of the patch juggling for you. It does this on your computer, all you need to decide is I want that one and you can pretty much drag and drop any program to any memory location.

The Factory patches are posted here at Korg Forums, the EXB patches are posted here, half a hundred 3rd party Triton compatible discs are posted here. Even a few of the software librarians are posted here.

Check out PCGTools (PC), TritonLib (PC) and LeLibby (JRE).

When I was rewriting my classic (many years ago now) I basically tore it down to zero and "jailbroke" (?braked?) it; going so far as to get rid of many arps I didn't care for or use in favor of those I liked better (drum pattern mostly) from the EXBs. I did most of my "wants" lists on paper, but all the edits and bank building was done on computer, before I re-loaded the programs back in. I think it was a matter of less than half a dozen floppies all told, because I was writing over .pcgs that were already loaded into my computer and didn't need to be archived.

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