Warning for creators/programmers of sounds

Post by **Sharp** » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:13 pm

Some of my content is in that list.

What a dumb $hit this guy is. Ignorant a$$.

God only knows how much else was lifted from our download section here at KF.

And as for this download....

Download
Extreme_Sample_Converter_v3.5.3_full__www.softarchive.net_.rar
28 January at 13:53 · Latest version by Goran Stojanovic

That's blatant outright piracy.

Regards
Sharp.

Post by **Sharp** » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:25 pm

Facebook sucks. There's no way to even report piracy. I've had to report the group as fraud / spam and all I get is a message saying thank you for helping to improve the site. You don't even get the option to explain for what reasons your reporting it. It's just a tick box you can click. Nothing else.

Useless.

I type Piracy into the help search and it displays how to set your privacy.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:39 pm

This is his personal facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/studioron01
And this his facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/motifshareclub/

Notice that the text says:

SOUND SHARE CLUB FOR YAMAHA MOTIF /ES/XS/XF/MOX KORG KROME / KRONOS
THE RULES .......WE DO NOT SHARE ANY COMMERCIAL SOUND LIBARYS !! we speak only in english !!...
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WE SHARE MORE THEN 520 SELF CREATED FILES THAT WE HAVE CREATE TOGETHER WITH A HAND FULL ACTIVE MEMBERS IN THIS CLUB ,. NOTICE BEFORE BECOME A FULL MEMBER , YOU MUST SUPPORT AND UPLOAD YOUR SELF CREATED MOTIF OR MOX SOUND FILES ,
AFTER SUPPORT ,YOU get more download access and BECOME A Full MEMBER OF THIS PRIVATE SOUND SHARE CLUB
ps we share on a fair policy /means you share /we share/ !!
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NEW GUEST MEMBERS WHO CAN GIVE NOT ANY REACTIONS ON THE REQUEST TOPICS .OR MAILS IN THE SHARE BOX. AND ONLY OUT FOR FREE DOWNLOADS WILL BE DELETED !! WHEN NOT RESPECT THE SIMPLE RULES { WE SHARE } CREATE / AND SHARE , SO WHEN HAVE NON TIME TO BE A ACTIVE MEMBER !! THEN SORRY YOUR IN THE WRONG GROUP !!

I think there are quite some parts in this text that he himsels violates against.

Btw, I found that several of my personal friends on FB have him also as friend. I can send them a notice, but maybe it's best to send everybody on his list a notice of warning.
What do you think of it? Actually, I don't have anything on his FB page, but since PCG Tools is relying on PCG files I don't want them to be abused. All PCG files I downloaded or received I keep for myself for testing purposes only.

R Brenon · Post by **R Brenon** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:38 am

Hey guys,
Listen, I'm not defending this fuckbook site because I understand how you feel, but,
One thing I learned long ago was, anything I put on the internet is now public domain. If you upload a song for demo on some site somewhere, it's always gonna end up on some stupid free ringtone or MP3 download site. You won't even be able to keep up on how many will sprout. If you upload a file somewhere on a public domain site, it's gonna end up on another public domain site for download, or even sites like this where people want to make their own rules. The law doesn't protect Piracy in public domain because according to law there is nothing in public domain that would fall under Piracy or "Protected Content". Blame 9-11 for those laws. The powers that be can't even take down completely illegal torrent or movie sites that openly advertise their piracy, and no one will invest in "Hey I didn't get credit for that!" The law unfortunately isn't always moral or even capable. How many expensive VST's do you think are on peoples Kronos systems that don't own the VST. Open systems are a magnet for everything they can suck up. The internet is an open system, Sound is an open system, Public forums are an open system. Sample players are open. You can get all the kronos sounds for Kontakt or whatever you use if you want.
I've had other people take credit for my music, artwork and programming Ideas. It pisses me off too. You can force their hand into admitting ownership or authoring but after a while your learning you have to fight too much. This is just my opinion but I won't upload anything I care about getting recognition for anymore. It's just not with it.
Keep what you value, Upload because you know it's going to be shared. I hope you get my drift.

Kromeheaven · Post by **Kromeheaven** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:09 am

No, "free stuff" does not mean you can do anything with it.

What is not normal is to get someone's job and forget to mention author and sources.

A LGPL licence or similar could solve this kind of abuse.

just my opinion also...

giovanni78 · Post by **giovanni78** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:19 pm

Just FYI! The people on motifator are also aware of Ron Geraerts illegal activities on Facebook:

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/foru ... ad/468743/

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/foru ... 47/#571092

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/foru ... ad/468749/

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/foru ... ad/468748/

All the best,

Jo

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:02 am

Im really bummed that some jackass is hosting my really old patches... Has anyone had luck getting yours down?

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:14 pm

I'm just astonished that Nobody here can have Facebook puul his site down. This guy should have his head kicked in! Does anyone know what country he lives in?

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:17 pm

jeremykeys wrote:I'm just astonished that Nobody here can have Facebook puul his site down. This guy should have his head kicked in! Does anyone know what country he lives in?

Netherlands ... sorry I'm not proud of that in this case ... actually I probably can find his complete address in a minute, but I don't want people playing their own judge.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:11 pm

I understand. My tendency to wanting to become, judge, jury and hangman sometimes get the better if me. Doesn't mean I'm wrong though,

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:54 pm

His alternate name "Ron Maastricht" is kind of a giveaway since that's a city in our Southernmost province. He doesn't really seem bent on hiding.

giovanni78 · Post by **giovanni78** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:57 pm

On Facebook, one can report copyright issues by selecting "Report a problem" (upper right menu where you can also log out) -> Abusive Content -> Intellectual Property Issues -> Copyright -> Reporting Copyright Infringements

I don't know if that could help but in case you didn't know...only the copyright owners themselves can use this option.

All the best,

Jo

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:31 pm

I have had facebook contact with him again today after a long time.

There seems to be no intention of changing his policy so he removed himself from the PCG Tools facebook group himself.

synth player · Post by **synth player** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:47 pm

hi dudes well this is a total wrong vision that mr Micael keizers try to do - while he is just piss off that he dont seemsto understand wat the concept is in ore SOUND SHARE club groep .. !! the name already says it .we are a SMALL prive sound share club - with a handfull motif en korg players we create full mode sound sets together thats make it unieque to create not only voice mode patches but also multi section patterns - performance / combi mode drum kits arpeggio's etc etc and we share these only with players who did help made these unique sound sets so these are full self made by the group members - so while these sound sets ar susch high qualtiand pro soundings is why we build this together !! !! so becoas of that we get every year about 200 request from synth players to can join the private group - only for one reason to can DOWNLOAD the hard work full mode sound sets we made - so we ask when like to join this club -before we give access on the group - what the request person have to SHARE on SELF MADE and if they have read the simple grouprules and understand the concept of this SOUND SHARE CLUB ??
??? all say yes sure !! and come up with mostly small free to find on the web sound sets that they have download on whatt ever many synth sound groups - also they say the files they like to share are self made - wich is NOT the truth !! they do all kind lies and try to fool us with there files that theye have already download for free on the web from others just to can get access to ore real self made sound sets - also all new request so called new members we give a guest period for can see on the SOUND SHARE CLUB wat we do STILL hoping to get the sound set !! from ore page whre we have psw for files downloads - so theynot like that of cours - so then most do directly upload for share lotsof pcg p- xov sound sets that they have give a fake name to hide the original file names just to fool us all only to get full access on ore download links in a private box - well as we been not stupid we must check always the many fake files that these guys try to share as so called support for ore club . !! so we discover these sad guys very quick and tell theme thats not how we work & share in this sound club .!! so lets put in all together people sign up in a SOUND SHARE CLUB .. they know they do not like to share - or create together new files .. they have not any self made sound sets - they have only one goal DOWNLOAD others hard work made together sound set files - and with all the lies and time they spend to fool us we tell that we not give accses for download or self made files and remove susch dudes from the group as guest member !! so they are all very pissed off like mrmichael keizers that we have look true such dudes bull sjit - and do all things to let look others bad - and use nonsens like all above in this topic so we can not now what so called guest members in ore group all do upload with fake names etc etc so how must we can give credits on files that are downloaded for free on other groups !!! so people do all things to acuse others just while theye are trapped in ther own sad lies and did not get wat they want and thats why try to judge on others like my sound share club its very simple you can not get or give credits on files from others taht are free to find on the INTERNET yes its called INTERNET remember so wake up just that is the reason why we try to keep file hunters out of ore group we share only on those who help created the manu Unique sound set file so we also not need any credits or give any credits we respect the small team players in or private club club and we protect the hard work files while we learn in the 4 years taht poepole do all things just to get files from other and for free - why we understand why to can show of on stage playing sound s that where made by others also without any credits wright !!! so we not make sound sets together in this club to get credits no we make sound sets together to help each other not to please file hunters who can not handle the truth and jusge others like us grts Ron https://www.facebook.com/groups/motifmoxsoundheaven/

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synth player · Post by **synth player** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:16 pm

WELL if we must believe motifator ?? yes i do have buy several sound sets on motifator { low quality ] ps these motifator sound sets are mostly just voice mode sounds sets that cost lots of $$$ money ok so when i have buy a sound set from motifator they say i can not use or edit these sound sets on my synth to make with lets say a voice patch sound from the sound set i like to use to edit change record in song - pattern mode - to create a new full mode sound set and make a music file or even complete band - artists motif sound sets in a all file extencion XOA and share on my motif friends i mean thats the point on a synthesizer to change - edit - design - create your own sounds and to make MUSIC - ok and also with the original factory sound presets or any other new commercial sounds that are avaible to get the max out the synth -so thats why we work together creating more and new sound sets and we only SHARE THESE on real sound share club members - ITSNOT wat motifator say and acuse us on we do not share any standzard commercial sound sets we create music files sound sets and do not shaRE illigal sound sets from motifator shops - the only reason while they acuse us is that we have a total sound set collection list with aswel selfmade and also commercial sound sets list on a pdf - that does not mean that we share tis open on others its just a list of or private all sound sets pdf - so we have also lots of motifator forum guest member visitors who are pissed of that we are just music files makers and thats why we buy a pro music synth workstation like a yamaha motif - korg kronos not to make only pictures of it grts and grow up you guys have such big ego's and show of on profiles with lots of gear studio- live players sound engineer high sholled musicians jejejejej but 98% have non music made or have any liks from all the bla bal egeo tripping again we make music thats the hole point when have a multi $$$$ pro synth workstation grts have fun guys !!

so who can create susch sound sets like this ?? yes only when work together >> have fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQF4YpW ... w6&index=1

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