combi volumes are lower than program volumes...?
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fre gordon
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combi volumes are lower than program volumes...?
am i missing something? my combi volume levels are about half the program levels. for instance i can max "pauls piano" in timbre 1 of a combi and it is only half the volume of the program "pauls piano" is there a master combi volume i'm missing?
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michelkeijzers
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Maybe because different IFX/MFX/TFX settings are used?
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billbaker
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Unfortunately, there can be a great difference between programs with their effects and those without.
As MK indicated the effects as well as the program data needs to be copied and set up when writing a combi from scratch.
I suspect that the main effects missing from your piano patch are EQ and compression, both of which impact volume in a big way.
The reason for this is to allow you to set up only those effects that you feel you need and not to be limited by the imposition of those effects that might have been part of the original program but might have been conflicting. Imagine the sonic mud that would be generated by having three sounds with three different delay and/or reverb times. [btw: you could set that up, but it would be you making the choice.]
On the bright side you can use the pull down menu at the top right of the insert and master effects pages to "copy effects from" a program or combi, which will greatly speed up the process of setting up a combi that is identical to an established program. Be aware that you will need to make sure that your routing of the programs through the copied insert effects and master effects send/balance will have to be reconnected/reset as well.
Finally, you may find that the programS you are setting up in a combi require more effects than you have available, were you to copy all of their individual effects.
This is where a bit of skull work will help you:
Use only the effects you NEED.
Use them on MORE than one instrument, if you can.
Use the INSERT function and creative routing to conserve the effects you do use.
When there is a chain of effects, set it up so that coloring or specific effects (heavy change to quality of sound) like distortion or flange happen earlier and general or non-specific effects (change to quantity of sound) like EQ and compression happen later.
For example, primary instrument might use FX 1-2-3-4-5 where they are set (1) distortion (2) multi-tap delay (3) compression (4) reverb (5) EQ.
In this example by inserting instruments into the chain later they can take advantage of the volume impacting effects (3-4-5) without also having to go through the heavy coloration stages (1-2) of the early part of the chain.
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As MK indicated the effects as well as the program data needs to be copied and set up when writing a combi from scratch.
I suspect that the main effects missing from your piano patch are EQ and compression, both of which impact volume in a big way.
The reason for this is to allow you to set up only those effects that you feel you need and not to be limited by the imposition of those effects that might have been part of the original program but might have been conflicting. Imagine the sonic mud that would be generated by having three sounds with three different delay and/or reverb times. [btw: you could set that up, but it would be you making the choice.]
On the bright side you can use the pull down menu at the top right of the insert and master effects pages to "copy effects from" a program or combi, which will greatly speed up the process of setting up a combi that is identical to an established program. Be aware that you will need to make sure that your routing of the programs through the copied insert effects and master effects send/balance will have to be reconnected/reset as well.
Finally, you may find that the programS you are setting up in a combi require more effects than you have available, were you to copy all of their individual effects.
This is where a bit of skull work will help you:
Use only the effects you NEED.
Use them on MORE than one instrument, if you can.
Use the INSERT function and creative routing to conserve the effects you do use.
When there is a chain of effects, set it up so that coloring or specific effects (heavy change to quality of sound) like distortion or flange happen earlier and general or non-specific effects (change to quantity of sound) like EQ and compression happen later.
For example, primary instrument might use FX 1-2-3-4-5 where they are set (1) distortion (2) multi-tap delay (3) compression (4) reverb (5) EQ.
In this example by inserting instruments into the chain later they can take advantage of the volume impacting effects (3-4-5) without also having to go through the heavy coloration stages (1-2) of the early part of the chain.
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I realize this thread is old, but with the possibility this might help someone else, in combi, the programs are also limited by the mixer volume. When playing back many programs in combi, they cannot all be 127 (max) so individual sounds are going to play back at their relative mixer levels in the Combination Mixer Play tab while individual programs are going to play back at the amp level volume.
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