Korg Pa4x/nanoPAD2 issues and bad news!

For discussion relating to the Korg PA4X arranger

Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever

Sam CA
Platinum Member
Posts: 3992
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 7:29 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by Sam CA »

ok...so it's officially confirmed that the Pa4x is still NOT a class compliant midi device and the USB Host port direct midi connection is NOT available for other brands. It only works with Korg controllers.

Most small/portable midi controllers don't have the traditional 5 pin midi connection, so I guess that's the end of it for now. This should clarify any confusion...
Sam

Image

Image
User avatar
D575
Platinum Member
Posts: 1281
Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:21 pm
Location: UK (Dorset)

Post by D575 »

I wonder.... "Guitar IN" on the "NEW PA 1000" could that be a future update I was hinting at earlier in this thread ???... As I said there are some nice blank spaces in those menus that could be filled with this NEW feature and maybe more in the next PA4X update .... quote: (korg.com) "Guitar FXs let you add pedal studio effects to a guitar connected to the dedicated Guitar input on the back of the instrument. We selected some of the best guitar effects from the KORG collection, to add the sound of all-tube amplifiers, realistic distortion, chorus or delay pedals, and the highest quality studio reverbs." ....the mic input on the PA4X should cover the duties for guitar...... i wonder :)
Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Berhinger VC340 : Berhinger Solina : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ-5 Mixer : Omnisphere 2 : Cherry Audio Korg PS-3300 : Waves IDX : Kraftur & Gullfoss : Cradle God Particle : Sonarworks Sound-ID Ref : Cubase 14
Sam CA
Platinum Member
Posts: 3992
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 7:29 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by Sam CA »

The situation with the nanoPAD 2 is totally unrelated to the PA4x in this case. You still need more than just ONE program change message to be able to do something useful regardless. The reason you can get away with selecting something like "Intro 1" with just a simple PC message is that...there's only one INTRO 1 altogether but when you deal with sounds/SetLists/Styles and SongBook entries, you do need a string of midi commands.

This is a bad analogy but it's almost like this:

Take a postal address for example: 4060 E.Something Road, CA , 95000

If you want this residence to receive the mail, you'd have to be specific about the address which is a string of numbers and letters. What if the post office does not allow you to write the full address on one envelope? What if they require you to break it down and use at least 3 or more envelopes to write the full address or else they will NOT deliver! This is how KORG has set up the nanoPAD2 to work with the Pa4x for selecting sounds/Styles...etc. It's a weird OS issue with the nanoPAD2. It defeats the purpose of having this plug & play option because it only makes things more difficult.

..............

Then you have this in the MOST RECENT manual (Page 47):
You can use the USB HOST as a midi connection, to connect
OTHER
musical instruments to be used as CONTROLLERS".


So I thought, it's no so bad. We can just get a different controller that does transmit these commands using ONE pad. Turns out you can NOT use "other" controllers....OTHER means Korg controllers ONLY! :facepalm:

A short paragraph about this USB Host connection deal could've cleared the confusion. There was no need to be so vague and mysterious about it. It's only going to generate more headache and tech support inquiries from users.

Unless this USB Host port becomes available for non-korg controllers, ...or an update improves the way the nanoPad2 works, I don't see a real benefit in using this controller with the Pa4x.
Sam

Image

Image
cobay
Posts: 39
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:23 pm

Post by cobay »

Hello,
I'm trying to trigger PAD1 to 4 and PAD STOP using nanopad2 controller.
Any ideea how to do that or if it is possible?

Thanks.
User avatar
Eduardo_Arg
Senior Member
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 7:28 pm
Location: Argentina

Post by Eduardo_Arg »

Hi Cobay:

You must wait till NEXT Os is available.
NEXT will let you connect nanopad.
Take a look at official Korg web.
Regards
Eduardo
Korg Kronos 2 88 - Korg PA4x 76 - Roland Fantom 08 - Korg N1R Sound Module - Korg 05RW Sound Module - Roland UM550 Edirol Midi Patchbay Amp pair SWR California Blonde II
cobay
Posts: 39
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:23 pm

Post by cobay »

Eduardo_Arg wrote:Hi Cobay:

You must wait till NEXT Os is available.
NEXT will let you connect nanopad.
Take a look at official Korg web.
Regards
Eduardo
Hi,
I can connect it already.
There is no Program Change value to trigger the PADs. For ex: value 80 triggers INTRO1, value 64 STS1 etc.... but I tried all the values from 0 to 127 and no value triggers the pads.
I didn't saw that problem solved on OS3 list of new features. They added sync start/stop.

Is it a real problem or not? Many live performers use arrangers with remote triggers...
ova
Senior Member
Posts: 312
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:48 pm
Location: Canada

Post by ova »

Hi,

Is it possible to use the MIDI in and out ports to control external instruments and use the Nano trough USB at the same time?

Thanks
User avatar
kbrkr
Platinum Member
Posts: 856
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:26 pm
Location: Savannah, Georgia USA

Post by kbrkr »

The new OS 3.0 release is supposed to greatly improve this functionality. I can't wait as I've been trying to control the Pa4x through midi for a while and it's frustrating.
Pa5x, ForeScore - Korg Forum Member for 21 years and counting
DELLRACHIDO
Posts: 42
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Location: Morrocco

Post by DELLRACHIDO »

Hello

I bought the Nanopad2 for the Pa4x. and as I have a lot of loop in the form of PAD of my Pa4x, I wanted to assign more pads programmed on the Pa4x to the keys of the NanoPad2.
but strangely, you cannot assign the pads recorded on the Pa4x on the nanoPad2. we can just program the variations, fill in, intro, break.

Is there anyone on this forum who has managed to assign the pads programmed on the Pa4x to the keys of the Nanopad2? v and the procedures to follow?
Korg pa1000 & pa4x
Sam CA
Platinum Member
Posts: 3992
Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 7:29 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Post by Sam CA »

DELLRACHIDO wrote:Hello

I bought the Nanopad2 for the Pa4x. and as I have a lot of loop in the form of PAD of my Pa4x, I wanted to assign more pads programmed on the Pa4x to the keys of the NanoPad2.
but strangely, you cannot assign the pads recorded on the Pa4x on the nanoPad2. we can just program the variations, fill in, intro, break.

Is there anyone on this forum who has managed to assign the pads programmed on the Pa4x to the keys of the Nanopad2? v and the procedures to follow?

If the pads require a string of PC/LSB/MSB, then you can't. I mean you can but Korg expects users to press 3 DIFFERENT buttons on the nanoPad2 to transmit that type of data! Vars, fills...etc...are ok because the only require a single PC message.
Sam

Image

Image
DELLRACHIDO
Posts: 42
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Location: Morrocco

Post by DELLRACHIDO »

Hello
I do not understand why Korg does not configure NANOPAD2 to allow us to configure the PAD of korg pa4x?
However, it is the most basic of uses !!!!!
Korg pa1000 & pa4x
Korghelper
Platinum Member
Posts: 584
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:19 pm

Post by Korghelper »

Is it possible to get the Nanopad to send a user defined sysex string? If so, it might be possible to send the sysex equivalent of the PC/32/00 string rather than the separate codes.
Post Reply

Return to “Korg Pa4X”