KP3 and Ableton

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liamjonas
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KP3 and Ableton

Post by liamjonas »

Hi. I am extremely retarded. I'm also kind of frustrated at this point in my attempt to figure this out.

I use Live 5 to cue audio samples (i.e. full-length mp3s) and mix them together. I bought my KP3 thinking I could use it in THREE ways:

1) To connect it to my Mac via USB, and use it in EXT-CTRL mode to be able to cue one or more audio selections in Ableton.

2) To use it to add effects to my mixes -- whether they be the Korg native effects or if I use the KP3 to control Ableton's effects, it makes no difference to me. A flanger is a flanger, amirite?

3) To use a mic input to loop vocal/beatbox samples.

Right now #1 is giving me PROBLEMS. I've reached an impasse. I've installed the drivers. I've installed the KP3-Editor. I went into Ableton preferences and selected the KP3 and so on. I just can't get the audio tracks to come up on the Kaoss pad. It's like it's not being recognized or something.

I'd consider myself tech savvy, but hot damn, I just don't get it.

Help anybody? What am I doing wrong? The KP3 can cue audio tracks from Ableton, right?

Start at square 1 if possible!

Thanks so much.

- Liam[/i]
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Post by rossco1111 »

i was about to try this at the weekend mate. I'll ley you know if i have any joy.
xmlguy
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Re: KP3 and Ableton

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liamjonas wrote:I just can't get the audio tracks to come up on the Kaoss pad. It's like it's not being recognized or something.
What do you mean by that? You can't put Live audio tracks onto the KP3, if that's what you mean. The KP3 can control anything in EXT.CTRL mode that Live allows you to control via midi, including cueing tracks. Read the "MIDI Remote Control" section of the Live Reference Manual. The KP3 doesn't know anything about Live, but using the KP3 editor you can assign whatever midi messages you want to the KP3 controls by clicking on the EXT.CTRL & GLOBAL tab, then click on any of the red boxes on the image of the KP3 to select the control and enter the midi information on the right hand side.

For example, you can click on the red box above the Program Memory 1 button (of the numbered buttons from 1 to 8) by clicking on it, then on the right hand side you can assign the Type to "Note", MIDI Channel 1, Note # C1, Off Velocity of 0, On Velocity of 127, and Switch Type of "Toggle". Now when you press the "1" button, it will send a C1 note ON message on midi channel 1, and if you press it again it will send a C1 note OFF message. The red box above the 1 button will display "C1".

Now in Live you need to map the midi note C1 to do something, like Cue/UnCue Clip 1. (following the manual for MIDI Remote Control). If you need more detailed help on how to do this in Ableton Live 5, then you should ask your questions in the Ableton Forums.)

To do virtual faders on the KP3 pad, you need to pick a pattern like Pattern 4, which configures the pad to be 8 vertical controls, then you can change the MIDI CC# or use the default (70) on the right side of the editor.

After configuring the KP3, you should save the configuration to a file on the computer by hitting the Save button, so that you can load it later.
TracyE
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Re: KP3 and Ableton

Post by TracyE »

xmlguy wrote:To do virtual faders on the KP3 pad, you need to pick a pattern like Pattern 4,...
I have been trying to do the virtual sliders, but cannot figure it out. How do you "pick a pattern" please. I can't find any reference to this in the manual.
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Post by xmlguy »

Use the KP3 Editor. There's a tab for configuring the Ext.CTRL.
TracyE
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Post by TracyE »

Sorry but I still don't follow. I do not know how to make the sliders appear on the pad.
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Post by TracyE »

Ok, I finally found it. I had not noticed the little Pattern button in the editor.
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