Data protection on Pa800!!

[tamimg]

hello dear members,

I know this topic has been discussed here severale times before, but i did my very best to find them and i couldnt, so forgive me for the following repeat question:

How can i protect my data (user SET as a whole) on the Pa800. Is there anyway to protect user data with a user password or any kinda data encryption. I always have to worry about leaving my instrument behind at gigs, cuz i cant trust some musicians that i have to work with. My user data are really valuable to me, and i wouldnt want anyone to have their hands on them. I have invested so much money, time and energy to achieve what i have now and I'm sure u all understand this

i'll appreciate any reaction to this topic and thanks in advances..

greetzz
tamim

[Sam CA]

hello dear members,

I know this topic has been discussed here severale times before, but i did my very best to find them and i couldnt, so forgive me for the following repeat question:

How can i protect my data (user SET as a whole) on the Pa800. Is there anyway to protect user data with a user password or any kinda data encryption. I always have to worry about leaving my instrument behind at gigs, cuz i cant trust some musicians that i have to work with. My user data are really valuable to me, and i wouldnt want anyone to have their hands on them. I have invested so much money, time and energy to achieve what i have now and I'm sure u all understand this

i'll appreciate any reaction to this topic and thanks in advances..

greetzz
tamim

There's NOT a way for you to protect your data. I brought this up about 2 years ago, and Jerry from Korg said that He will pass on this request to Korg Italy .. and haven't heard anything from them since. It's not only about protecting data actually, it's also about not letting people to help themselves to play your keyboard when you're not close to your keyboard especially on the stage. This is been such a pain in the neck for me. I've had people loading their own sets over mine. I've had people changing my sounds and presets, and so on. Unfortunately, they only way is to just shut it down..Although, that doesn't work very well for a place like a Church, where even disconnecting stuff doesn't give you that much of data protection. It would've been really nice to have a screen password as an optional feature.
Or you can risk using a third party USB lock hardware. I don't recommand it at all..

Don't even try diggin up that thread. Some people filled it up with crap, so you'll have to waste a lot of time to find anything useful in there.

[karmathanever]

You won't get a password protection feature added to the PA OS.

If you have to leave your PA800 behind at gigs I would strongly recommend that you get a strong lockable case for it (e.g. flight case). If your keyboard is exposed to people who might "steal" your data, then it is more likely to be physically damaged.

(You could keep your data on external drive and hence take that with you....)

If you are only worried about losing data whilst performing (e.g. during a break) then cover your keyboard - this is far more effective than it may seem. A simple draw-string cover which is quick to install and remove will discourage undesirable access to your gear - it would also be very simple to lock the draw string with a small cheap combination lock - the draw string itself may need to be something like a thin plastic chain. You could then leave your PA800 powered on during breaks etc...

A locked flight case is the best solution whilst the keyboard is not being used.

In the mean time, take it home with you - it isn't worth the risk otherwise.

Pete

[tamimg]

Thanks Pete and Sam for your suggestions. I really hoped for something like a password protection integrated into PA O.S. I'm not a software engineer, but i can imagine this feature being easily implemented by Korg if they want it. Am just another Korg pa user, hanging with a problem...
I actually thaught of ways to lock down the USB ports, even crazy things like montaging a piece of hardware onto the USB port or something, but that just remained an idea and couldnt do nothin in practise...i'll consider the hardcase solution, but i guess it would be hard to pack up your gear in a locked hard case for 15mins breaks. but that worths it if it protects my keyboard and lets me take my break and coffee without worrying...

thanks guys...

[karmathanever]

Hi again

I empathise with your concerns. Regarding the "15min breaks" - I used to cover mine - it's quick and easy and a drawstring cover will discourage those annoying people who have to touch. I am a drummer and I have used a cover over my kit to keep prying hands off. I also used to carry my "drumstick bag" with me during breaks at certain venues. You just need an oblong piece of light material which is large enough to hang over all 4 sides of the PA. Put a hem around the material and insert a piece of string through the hem leaving both ends of the string exposed. you can then lay the cover over the PA and pull the string ends to prevent the cover being removed (you could use elastic instead). Make sure you use a very thin light material so that you can safely leave the PA switched on. Such a cover should discourage others from touching the keyboard. Sure, someone can remove the cover but I think you stand a better chance that it will be left alone.

A password would be nice I agree.

Cheers

Pete

[neverkorgagain]

i can suggest that we start a petition and send it to korg factory.... so they will take us seriously, i dont want my hard work to set my pa800 some1 steal, and i was in tht position to many times, so i was starting all from begining every time, regards.

[marlo74]

I had a similar post about a year ago for that same need.
The other option that we looked at was locking the USB ports to mainly prevent data theft. There were not many options then.

[Sam CA]

I had a similar post about a year ago for that same need.
The other option that we looked at was locking the USB ports to mainly prevent data theft. There were not many options then.

yeah, but the reason i don't recommand those USB lock options is that, i've seen a few keyboard with broken USB lock stuck in them. A screen password would be the easiest fix for this.

[some1uk03]

Neverkorgagain: i can suggest that we start a petition and send it to korg factory.... so they will take us seriously, i dont want my hard work to set my pa800 some1 steal, and i was in tht position to many times, so i was starting all from begining every time, regards.

I was bothered enough to create a thread with features that could easily be added in the next Update in case KORG is out of ideas or cant be bothered to release a new update.

Here is the original thread: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2 ... hp?t=49997

My options is:
#3 Screen Lock: Simple Digits that can lock the keyboard so that People/kids cant tweak the keyboard when you are not around!
Incase you forget the PIN, then you can also allow the user to save a FILE on to a USB stick, and when Plugged in, WHOALA... keyboard will be unlocked again. Kind of a recovery option. Or same File can be saved to your PC incase problems with USB.



So if anyone else is really bothered, they could send it to KORG and try and push this further!

[Rob Sherratt]

If anyone is really bothered they would be a Korg distributor, and would order 1000 Pa800 keyboards on the condition that Korg add this feature just for them. A bit like the deal the Turkish distributor did with Korg to develop the custom Pa-series products for the Turkish market. I kid you not, that is the only way to persuade Korg to make it happen. You can write letters to Korg until the post office sells out of postage stamps if you like. You will not get a reply.

Best regards,
Rob

[abo59]

I've mentioned it before, for the same reason, and I'm saying it again... there is a "simple" solution, get a key-operated switch (like this one) and install it in such a manner that it physically disconnects the USB-ports.

[some1uk03]

I've mentioned it before, for the same reason, and I'm saying it again... there is a "simple" solution, get a key-operated switch (like this one) and install it in such a manner that it physically disconnects the USB-ports.

There is no point of considering any Hardware changes, because that would require a new brand of keyboards!

What we are talking is about a software update where current models could make use of!

[abo59]

There is no point of considering any Hardware changes, because that would require a new brand of keyboards!

What we are talking is about a software update where current models could make use of!

This was meant very much as a do-it-yourself modification of current keyboards. Drill a hole, install the switch, connect one lead from each USB-port... and you're set.

[Sam CA]

Drill a hole, install the switch, connect one lead from each USB-port... and you're set.

Drill a hole in the keyboard? Are you serious? What happens to the warranty? what happens to the resale value of the keyboard? What if, you're using a keyboard that doesnt' belong to you?