Kronos 61- I played it for the 1st time today.

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Kronos 61- I played it for the 1st time today.

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I rang around all my local music shops to see who had a Kronos to demo and none except for Keyboard Corner in Boronia (Melbourne, Australia) had any. Their Kronos was boxed and they were gracious enough to unpack the instrument and let me demo it. Thanks to the kind staff at Keyboard Corner for this very kind gesture! This is the kind of service we should be seeing at ALL our music shops and I'll be certain to go back to see them whenever I'm ready to purchase my Kronos! :) Which will happen I know!!!! :) :)

Now onto the topic: Yes I played the Kronos 61 for the 1st time today for about half an hour (with my sick wife sitting by my side!).

I must say that the Kronos is everything that I expected it to be: A truly wonderful next generation instrument from Korg that is very intuitive to use despite it's complexity. Having owned a lot of Korg gear over the years- T3EX, O1WFD, Trinity Plus, Z1, Triton Classic, DW8000, Wavestation AD, Wavestation SR, IX300 (I still have the T3EX and O1WFD!), I felt very comfortable using the Kronos right from the start. I'm thankful that Korg haven't done anything radical by changing their general GUI, sticking to the well known COMBI, PROGRAM, SEQ, etc. modes.

The large 8.5' LCD is awesome. However, I feel that Korg could have made better use of the large LCD with larger characters that can be seen from further away in live performance. I'm visually impaired and found the small fonds displaying programs and combinations off putting and I'm sure that someone with 'normal' vision would feel the same.

I did love the graphics displayed on the LCD reflecting the 9 different synthesis methods and instrument categories. Upon going through some set lists, I too felt that this area could have been presented better with larger characters for naming the set lists as opposed to so much information being presented in those smaller characters! I'd prefer an option where you could have 8 set lists displayed at once with larger graphics as well as the option to stick with the current format of 16 set lists on the LCD.

Hang on, I haven't even mentioned the crux of the instrument itself: All those wonderful sounds. The pianos, EPs, organs and clavs are superb IMHO. They are a big improvement on what's on offer in my Kurzweil PC361 (which itself has some fantastic piano, EP, organ and clav programs). The CX3 emulation IMHO is an improvement on Kurzweil KB3 emulation for organ sounds. I'm not sure what it is but to me, the Korg just sounds 'better'. The pianos and EPs are definitely a step up from the Kuzweil and previous Korg synths such as the Triton and M3. Those 3 analog synth emulations are simply AWESOME! I was much less impressed with the guitar and harpsichord emulations that STR1 was trying to produce. IMHO these were a joke. I'm sure though that a good programmer could do a lot better than what's on offer in the STR1 factory programs. The HD1 acoustic and electric guitars were what I expected from a Korg instrument: in need of a desperate make over and (with the exception of the nylon string guitars that I enjoyed playing). Seriously Korg, smell the cheese and listen to what Yamaha and Roland have been offering for years when it comes to quality acoustic and electric guitar programs! I seriously hope and even pray that Korg will released a dedicated HD expansion to improve this obvious weak area. It's not that the sounds are terrible: The issue is that this quality was available in the early 90s and even the Trinity had better acoustic guitars than what's on offer here! Ok enough about the guitar sounds as this topic has been done to death here at Korg Forums! Lets just hope that Korg do something about this obviously weaker sonic area in the Kronos!

I was pleasantly surprised by the solo and ensemble brass and woodwind instruments. The solo trumpet and different saxes were very musical (and I generally don't like these kind of instruments in a keyboard!). They are a huge step up from Kurzweil's very 90s(!) sounding pop brass programs (although those in their classical bank are great). I liked the strings but I can see Korg augmenting this area with better expansion packs. I was very pleasantly surprised by the vocal/voice programs (both sampled and synthetic). The synth basses, leads and pads were to die for! I also really enjoyed playing the electric and acoustic bass programs but I still think that Yamaha have the leading edge here! Those new drum programs are FANTASTIC and a big step up from previous Korg instruments. My Kurzweil simply can't compare with it's 90s sounding drum programs that are an obvious weakness in 2011!

Now about those combinations: To be honest, I was quite underwhelmed. I was expecting many more combis with affective use of Karma and beats. It seems that may of them were 'me to' layers and splits that didnt really show off the instrument in the same way that the combs did in the Triton and M3. I'm certain that by this stage, I was worrying about getting my sick (and very supportive!) wife home and to bed.

I briefly had a look at the SEQ page and found it to be an enhanced version of that in the Triton serious with all 16 tracks being visible on the 'midi' page and the same being the case on the 'audio' page. Therefore, it's a sequencer that I'd no doubt use when taking the instrument away with me on holiday or gigs as I used the Triton's sequencer extensively when I owned it. It's a pity that Korg have taken powerful features out the Kronos' sequencer which to me has the potential to become the ultimate hardware sequencer. They omitted 'cue lists' that I used all the time in my Triton to construct songs. Most importantly, they've omitted the powerful M3 Xpanded track list and piano roll. Come on Korg, let's hope that the Kronos 2.0 OS will address these limitations.

I picked up the Kronos (obviously being a 61 model). It was light but it felt like a solidly built instrument unlike the M50, MOX6 and other more budget instruments on the market. I found the switches, knobs and sliders to be solid and I didn't have the impression that the instrument was badly built. Even that data knob that everyone's complaining about felt ok to me! The Kronos is a fantastic looking instrument IMHO. I also wish that the LCD was tilted like that on the Trinity or the Roland Fantom X and G series workstations. However, this isn' a makeand break issue!

All in all, I was VERY IMPRESSED with this next generation Korg instrument. I'm keen to see what Korg does with new operating systems, adding extra sequencer features and expanding the Kronos's sound libraries even further. The 1.5 OS is already a big step in the right direction along with all the new expansion packs being released (even if they are pricey!). I don't expect to get expansion sounds for free but I also don't expect to alo be ripped off!

My feelings about the Kronos are very similar to the feelings I experienced when the Trinity was released in 1995 and I played it for the 1st time. Then, I loved the instrument and really wanted to own one but the 32 note polyphony limit really put me off. In 2011, I also really want to own the Kronos and treat it as a 'do everything workstation'. However a 2011 worksation should come with a 1995 era sequencer!

Korg have provided some great OS upgrades for their workstations in the past. Lets hope that the Kronos continues to be supported for many years to come with new and improved features that will enhance the incredible power that is already available as standard in this truly excellent instrument that breaks new ground in what you get 'out of the box' for the money!

Keep supporting this instrument Korg and I'll be the 1st to buy once you update that sequencer and get those average guitar sounds up to date.

I've only lightly scratched the surface with what I've written here. There's so much to the Kronos that it was be a huge shame if Korg decided to abondon it in favour of the 'next best thing' in 12 months time!
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I forgot to mention the excellent 61 key action and only hope that Korg release the same action in the 73 note 'unweighted' version of the Kronos! I'm yet to try a weighted version but I'm sure that it will be great to play on (just like my mates SV1 is fantastic to play).
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your about three months late to the kronos party, all you had to say is "this board is a monster", cause it is, and i knew that three months ago, i just cant read a post that big, sorry.
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jemkeys25 wrote:your about three months late to the kronos party, all you had to say is "this board is a monster", cause it is, and i knew that three months ago, i just cant read a post that big, sorry.
What do you mean about me being 3 months late to the Kronos party? For your information, hardly any shop in Australia has the Kronos yet and I was very lucky that the folks at Keyboard Corner/KC's Rock Shop were kind enough to unpack one for me to try out today. The same could not be said of Allans/Billy Hydes as they haven't got the Kronos in stock yet and we're talking about Australia's biggest musical instrument retailer here!

Just because you got 'joined the Kronos party' 3 months ago doesn't mean that people such as myself shouldn't post lengthy posts about our thoughts on Korg's latest 'monster' (as you correctly label the Kronos!).

If my post is too long then disregard it and others will read and comment (both positively and negatively). Just imagine if I had done more than just play through some programs and combinations and actually got into programming, sequencing and sampling..... then you'd still be scrolling down my post! :)

I'll be joining the Kronos party early next year when I seriously look at buying the instrument. It will make a fine 40th birthday present to myself :) :) :) :).
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If you go to Awave in Toorak you will be able to try out a Kronos 73. Awave have one on display. I picked up my K88 on saturday.

The only problems i have so far: the keys can be pulled forward and if you play very fast and hard, a key, on the odd occassion, will slide forward and bang into the front of the casing, this has happend a couple of times now with the white keys. If you grab a black key you can pull it forward toward you when you let it go it springs back into place.

The other issue i notice is that in setlist when you go from a combi with karma on to another sound there is No smooth transition, the previous sound cuts off.

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Billy thanks for letting me know about Awave. I contacted Mannys and was told that wouldn't stock the Kronos but would get it ordered if I wanted one. I'll get into Awave ASAP to have a proper demo of the Kronos and check out the 73 key version.
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Thanks for this extensive review.

And I'm glad to hear that the 61 key version action is great. I have tested a 73 here in the Netherlands, because I couldn't find a 61 version (and I want a synth action).

Since I'm using always 2 synths, 61 keys is enough for me (i.e.: 2 x 61 keys is enough for me), but I can imagine people like 73 keys.
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michelkeijzers wrote:Thanks for this extensive review.

And I'm glad to hear that the 61 key version action is great. I have tested a 73 here in the Netherlands, because I couldn't find a 61 version (and I want a synth action).

Since I'm using always 2 synths, 61 keys is enough for me (i.e.: 2 x 61 keys is enough for me), but I can imagine people like 73 keys.
I personally liked the feel of the Kronos 61's action. It was light but not too light that it felt 'plasticky' like the action of cheaper workstations that are currently on the market. It felt similar (but not the same) to my Kurzweil PC361 although I think I like the Kronos' action better.
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Thanx for posting your review Slovenec. I'm still waiting for my 61 :D
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Thanks for your review, Slovenec. It's always interesting to read a fresh point of view.

I have put my hands on a Kronos for the 1st time about 10 days ago, and I still have to write my own impressions.
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Nice review. I played one a few days ago but for only maybe 8 minutes(not long enough to give a review) but I'm sold!! 8)
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jemkeys25 wrote:your about three months late to the kronos party, all you had to say is "this board is a monster", cause it is, and i knew that three months ago, i just cant read a post that big, sorry.
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curvebender wrote:
jemkeys25 wrote:your about three months late to the kronos party, all you had to say is "this board is a monster", cause it is, and i knew that three months ago, i just cant read a post that big, sorry.
This month's winner in the meaningless post-category.

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I agree completely. Posts like that are merely useless and a big waste of energy. Sorry, but I simply cannot read a post that useless!

I'm going to another music shop in the next week or so to try out the 73 key version of the Kronos and I'll be sure to post back about my impressions. I won't have my very supportive wife sitting by my side nearly falling asleep as I get totally immersed in the instrument.

The Kronos is already such a powerful instrument now. I only hope that Korg continues to support it for a long time and not simply ditch it in favour of the next big thing in 2013. The M3 got a fantastic update with the V2 Xpanded version in 2008 and the Triton classic and Triton Studio were also well supported with new features during their lifespan. Let's hope that the same applies for the Kronos and that Korg only release something new when it's obvious that the Kronos can't be expanded upon any further.
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I must mention that I went to Awave in South Yarra today and played a Kronos 73. I must say that I was impressed by how 'compact' the 73 was and it was also quite easy to lift for a hammer action keyboard. It's quite a bit heavier than the 61 I played yesterday but way WAY lighter than my 76 weighted key Ensoniq TS12.

I must say that whilst I don't detest the RH3 action, I find it less enticing to play than the Motif XF or Roland G8. There's something about the action that doesn't make it as good when playing sounds that are better on an unweighted action like organ, synth and brass. Saying that, it was lovely to play those fabulous pianos and EPs.

I must stress that I dislike playing organ sounds from a weighted keyboard and don't like playing piano and EP from an unweighted action. Whichever way, I'll probably go for the 61 because it's lighted, more compact and can more easily fit into a small car when in a case.

Yep I've got a serious case of TEKNOLUST after playing the Kronos! :) :)
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Post by Kim »

Thanks for the reviews! Keep 'em coming guys! And don't be bothered by some of the folks who regard reviews as "old news". There are still many who haven't even touched a Kronos yet, so every bit of information is welcome.

Hoping I'll get mine this month... But I'm kind of worried because I live in Finland and the Kronis are distributed between all the scandinavian countries. Bummer.
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