Korg Kronos - HelP WITH DRUM PATTERN

[stevelord]

Hi! I'm new in this forum! In Korg Kronos I saw that when you select a drum pattern, there are also empty user pattern. Can I create personally drum patterns? how???

Thank you very much look forward to your response.


Stefano

[jimknopf]

To set up a user drum library and import drum tracks into the sequencer and then into user drum patterns, do the following:

A) Import of drum grooves
1. take an example midi groove (GM format)
2. put it on an USB stick, go to disk mode and import the groove to the ssd.
3. To get better overview, make a folder and later subfolders for drumgrooves on the SSD. Copy the groove there and delete the original in the root directory
4. In disk mode, load your midi file: it will always be imported into a song slot (you determine which in the pop up menu)
5. Go to sequencer mode, track edit: here you see at one glance on which track your groove has been placed (normally either 1 or 10). Here you also see the lenght of the groove (most times 1, 2 or 4 measures). This will be important later when you you import it into a groove
6. Go back to the sequencer main page. Press the first mixer entry above in your track and change "Keyboard" to Drums to assign your chosen drum set
7. go to the "track parameter" page and set your track midi channel to 10, then tap the pitch sub screen and transpose your track +12
8. press "play" on the sequencer controls: you should hear your track now (scroll back to the start with "locate", normally set to the beginning).

B) Convert that groove to a user drum groove
1. Still in sequencer, go to the "Pattern/RPPR" page
2. Go to Global dropdown menu "Pattern edit", and click "Pattern parameter". In the pop up menu you define how many measures from which track you want to convert, and in which meter.
3. From the same dropdown menu you now choose "Get from midi track" and define the starting measure for conversion
4. From dropdown menu, click "Convert to Drum Track Pattern" and define the slot where you want your groove to be placed.
You have a new user drum groove in your library

C) choose and edit a drumkit for your groove
1. choose program, load a kit to your liking
2. Go to Global mode, subpage drum kit, first subpage sample setup
3. Edit you kit according to your liking

[stevelord]

thanks soo much! when i have another question i call you!
sorry for my English but i'm italian!

To set up a user drum library and import drum tracks into the sequencer and then into user drum patterns, do the following:

A) Import of drum grooves
1. take an example midi groove (GM format)
2. put it on an USB stick, go to disk mode and import the groove to the ssd.
3. To get better overview, make a folder and later subfolders for drumgrooves on the SSD. Copy the groove there and delete the original in the root directory
4. In disk mode, load your midi file: it will always be imported into a song slot (you determine which in the pop up menu)
5. Go to sequencer mode, track edit: here you see at one glance on which track your groove has been placed (normally either 1 or 10). Here you also see the lenght of the groove (most times 1, 2 or 4 measures). This will be important later when you you import it into a groove
6. Go back to the sequencer main page. Press the first mixer entry above in your track and change "Keyboard" to Drums to assign your chosen drum set
7. go to the "track parameter" page and set your track midi channel to 10, then tap the pitch sub screen and transpose your track +12
8. press "play" on the sequencer controls: you should hear your track now (scroll back to the start with "locate", normally set to the beginning).

B) Convert that groove to a user drum groove
1. Still in sequencer, go to the "Pattern/RPPR" page
2. Go to Global dropdown menu "Pattern edit", and click "Pattern parameter". In the pop up menu you define how many measures from which track you want to convert, and in which meter.
3. From the same dropdown menu you now choose "Get from midi track" and define the starting measure for conversion
4. From dropdown menu, click "Convert to Drum Track Pattern" and define the slot where you want your groove to be placed.
You have a new user drum groove in your library

C) choose and edit a drumkit for your groove
1. choose program, load a kit to your liking
2. Go to Global mode, subpage drum kit, first subpage sample setup
3. Edit you kit according to your liking

[Melodialworks Music]

thanks soo much! when i have another question i call you!
sorry for my English but i'm italian!

Stefano -

Your English is just fine!

Lawrence

[stevelord]

i've send you a pm! did you see??

[Francois]

Excellent post, thanks.

[apex]

you can also use some of those same steps and turn a track YOU created into a drum pattern.

[dukes]

Hi, I'm new on Kronos and attempted to make the drum groove. I just wanted to make my own, so I went from step 8. Kronos keeps saying something like "not enough drumtrack locations" or something to that effect. I guess I have missed a step, but would someone be able to hold my hand and explain a little more please. that would be incredible. thanks.

To set up a user drum library and import drum tracks into the sequencer and then into user drum patterns, do the following:

A) Import of drum grooves
1. take an example midi groove (GM format)
2. put it on an USB stick, go to disk mode and import the groove to the ssd.
3. To get better overview, make a folder and later subfolders for drumgrooves on the SSD. Copy the groove there and delete the original in the root directory
4. In disk mode, load your midi file: it will always be imported into a song slot (you determine which in the pop up menu)
5. Go to sequencer mode, track edit: here you see at one glance on which track your groove has been placed (normally either 1 or 10). Here you also see the lenght of the groove (most times 1, 2 or 4 measures). This will be important later when you you import it into a groove
6. Go back to the sequencer main page. Press the first mixer entry above in your track and change "Keyboard" to Drums to assign your chosen drum set
7. go to the "track parameter" page and set your track midi channel to 10, then tap the pitch sub screen and transpose your track +12
8. press "play" on the sequencer controls: you should hear your track now (scroll back to the start with "locate", normally set to the beginning).

B) Convert that groove to a user drum groove
1. Still in sequencer, go to the "Pattern/RPPR" page
2. Go to Global dropdown menu "Pattern edit", and click "Pattern parameter". In the pop up menu you define how many measures from which track you want to convert, and in which meter.
3. From the same dropdown menu you now choose "Get from midi track" and define the starting measure for conversion
4. From dropdown menu, click "Convert to Drum Track Pattern" and define the slot where you want your groove to be placed.
You have a new user drum groove in your library

C) choose and edit a drumkit for your groove
1. choose program, load a kit to your liking
2. Go to Global mode, subpage drum kit, first subpage sample setup
3. Edit you kit according to your liking

[neomad]

To set up a user drum library and import drum tracks into the sequencer and then into user drum patterns, do the following:

A) Import of drum grooves
1. take an example midi groove (GM format)
2. put it on an USB stick, go to disk mode and import the groove to the ssd.
3. To get better overview, make a folder and later subfolders for drumgrooves on the SSD. Copy the groove there and delete the original in the root directory
4. In disk mode, load your midi file: it will always be imported into a song slot (you determine which in the pop up menu)
5. Go to sequencer mode, track edit: here you see at one glance on which track your groove has been placed (normally either 1 or 10). Here you also see the lenght of the groove (most times 1, 2 or 4 measures). This will be important later when you you import it into a groove
6. Go back to the sequencer main page. Press the first mixer entry above in your track and change "Keyboard" to Drums to assign your chosen drum set
7. go to the "track parameter" page and set your track midi channel to 10, then tap the pitch sub screen and transpose your track +12
8. press "play" on the sequencer controls: you should hear your track now (scroll back to the start with "locate", normally set to the beginning).

B) Convert that groove to a user drum groove
1. Still in sequencer, go to the "Pattern/RPPR" page
2. Go to Global dropdown menu "Pattern edit", and click "Pattern parameter". In the pop up menu you define how many measures from which track you want to convert, and in which meter.
3. From the same dropdown menu you now choose "Get from midi track" and define the starting measure for conversion
4. From dropdown menu, click "Convert to Drum Track Pattern" and define the slot where you want your groove to be placed.
You have a new user drum groove in your library

C) choose and edit a drumkit for your groove
1. choose program, load a kit to your liking
2. Go to Global mode, subpage drum kit, first subpage sample setup
3. Edit you kit according to your liking

Great, simply great post. But process is not straightforward.

I would like to have such conversion feature into Kronos editor. In my case, I've hundreds of patterns made with other sequencers I would like to have it into Kronos.

May be PCG tools can 'translate' a gm .mid file to Kronos pattern format?

[BobTheDog]

Nice info, thanks very much for this.

[michelkeijzers]

May be PCG tools can 'translate' a gm .mid file to Kronos pattern format?

No, it can create a cubase configuration file based on a PCG file but that doesn't help probably.

[jimknopf]

There should definitely be a much smarter, straightforward way to import GM format drum files! The way it is now, you will hardly ever import your favorite drum grooves, because the process is an extremey boring and time consuming one by one procedure.

I think this should not even be adressed in the editor, but in the Kronos OS itself (direct drum groove import feature), along with a general sequencer update. I would anytime pay for these two updates, to help cover development costs.

[neomad]

May be PCG tools can 'translate' a gm .mid file to Kronos pattern format?

No, it can create a cubase configuration file based on a PCG file but that doesn't help probably.

Hi Michel, thank you. I was just figuring how a simple .mid file (example, drum midi loop) can be ''converted'' to Kronos drum pattern format.

Example: in my old-beloved Alesis Fusion this is easily obtained just renaming the .mid file.

Dank u

[mrbptc]

there are no nationalities here, we share the universal, inspiring and beautiful language of music! "to the kronos", "to the kronos"!

[Saxifraga]

And another example of the streamlined task driven Kronos UI and OS.

Here you see RF explaining it using a M50: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSHg3xK7bo&feature=plcp
You should also see this about RPPR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH6TqFbskDc&feature=plcp


This workflow was exclusively programmed and sold to you by Steve Balmer and is part of the Cern ATLAS experiment to find the Hicks!

I wonder why we don´t use OLE and Excel to convert midi data?