Why Korg Did Not Include a Video With the OASYS ???

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:00 pm

I give up, if you like reading 1200 pages of book or pdf and burning your eyes, good luck. The thing is that also a cheap synth like the Yamaha MM6 has a DVD and it costs about 600 euros, I don't say anything else.

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:54 am

MauroR wrote:Anyways I meant a DVD on the programming side, I know the DVD from Mike which is awesome and I own (thanks Mike), but a video specific to programming it, it'll be more helpful and fun than read 1200 pages manual (that it's nor physical), just a thought.

It is still a way from release (should be this fall), but my second DVD will cover a lot of programming (and Combi creation), including MOD-7 examples. I'll completely cover the HD-1 and a lot of the AL-1, but expect to see how the amplifiers, filters, lfos and step sequencing functions work with every engine. The idea is that once you know how one amplifier, filter, lfo, etc. works, you can apply it elsewhere. (I'm planning on 3 total OASYS DVDs)

Kevin, Ken & Daz - thanks for the kind words about DVD #1.

sirCombatWombat · Post by **sirCombatWombat** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:53 pm

MauroR wrote:I give up, if you like reading 1200 pages of book or pdf and burning your eyes, good luck. The thing is that also a cheap synth like the Yamaha MM6 has a DVD and it costs about 600 euros, I don't say anything else.

Considering the thoughts by various people earlier on this thread about the uses of the manuals, your comment is just plainly stupid Mauro.

I would suggest reading few good books on synthesis, but I doubt you'd listen.

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:34 pm

sirCombatWombat wrote:
MauroR wrote:I give up, if you like reading 1200 pages of book or pdf and burning your eyes, good luck. The thing is that also a cheap synth like the Yamaha MM6 has a DVD and it costs about 600 euros, I don't say anything else.
Considering the thoughts by various people earlier on this thread about the uses of the manuals, your comment is just plainly stupid Mauro.

I would suggest reading few good books on synthesis, but I doubt you'd listen.

I don't respond since you didn't get my point. I DON'T HAVE ANY OASYS MANUALS SINCE KORG DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE and they're available as PDF only, if you feel comfortable reading the PC and the OASYS together, or reading it on the Oasys screen, good luck.

sirCombatWombat · Post by **sirCombatWombat** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:55 pm

MauroR wrote:I don't respond since you didn't get my point. I DON'T HAVE ANY OASYS MANUALS SINCE KORG DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE and they're available as PDF only, if you feel comfortable reading the PC and the OASYS together, or reading it on the Oasys screen, good luck.

These had been written

sirCombatWombat wrote:I think the PDF manual is great because of the Acrobat's fast search function, I shudder at the thought of 1200 pages of paper.
And it's environmentally responsible too.

Daz wrote:There are sections of the Param Guide (e.g. Dan's MOD-7 tutorial) that are worth reading as you would a tutorial, but the rest of it is reference material and not ideal for reading linearly.

mdh wrote:The parameter guide is not meant to be read cover to cover and memorised - you should instead select the bit of information from it on an as-need basis.

before your comment.

MauroR wrote:I give up, if you like reading 1200 pages of book or pdf and burning your eyes, good luck. The thing is that also a cheap synth like the Yamaha MM6 has a DVD and it costs about 600 euros, I don't say anything else.

Sorry about being harsh, I am a bit tired of this type of discussion. But actually reading the thread before commenting avoids many confrontations.

I was serious about the books on synthesis, ones I have read and can recommend are:
Sound Synthesis and Sampling, Second Edition by Martin Russ, ISBN:0240516923
Analog Synthesizers: Understanding, Performing, Buying- from the legacy of Moog to software synthesis by Mark Jenkins, ISBN:0240520726

You can already preorder the third edition of the Sound Synthesis and Sampling, and I am looking forward to that. And the Analog Synthesizers is a good book if you can overlook the blatant advertising of Technosaurus modules.

Understanding synthesis makes the OASYS easy, I really mean that. The engineers have made a stunning job of the interface.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:57 pm

sirCombatWombat wrote:Understanding synthesis makes the OASYS easy, I really mean that. The engineers have made a stunning job of the interface.

+1

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:29 pm

Ok guys, I admit that I'm just pissed off. I've no problems with PDFs and understanding sythesis and all the things related to it. Sorry.

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:45 pm

I have to admit: I went to a copy shop last year and had the manual printed.

This was:

a) expensive
b) environmentally bad
c) environmentally bad

Turns out I never use it... And I even had them bind the different chapters in separate booklets!

pegnafroy · Post by **pegnafroy** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:31 pm

Hi Salcerin:

Do you owe an Oasys???? Cheers, congratulations, enhorabuena...

I'm on the way of purchase an Oasys76 (second hand U$5000), but actually i can't afford it yet.

So, so much time without chat.

Nice to see you, and again, congratulations.

Sincerely.

Desde Santiago de Chile.

Froilán

salcerin · Post by **salcerin** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:34 pm

Yes, I got a New Machine From Korg, It's a Good Machine.

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:55 pm

curvebender wrote:I have to admit: I went to a copy shop last year and had the manual printed.

This was:

a) expensive
b) environmentally bad
c) environmentally bad

Turns out I never use it... And I even had them bind the different chapters in separate booklets!

This is what I've tried to say, but here no one seems to understand, they treat you like an alien.So I given up.

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:58 pm

So not only we don't have an official video, but they have stopped to print the manuals. Now you have to have a PC to read the manual since printing it costs a lot of money.

salcerin · Post by **salcerin** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:00 pm

It's Crazzy.

sirCombatWombat · Post by **sirCombatWombat** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:09 pm

MauroR wrote:
curvebender wrote:I have to admit: I went to a copy shop last year and had the manual printed.

This was:

a) expensive
b) environmentally bad
c) environmentally bad

Turns out I never use it... And I even had them bind the different chapters in separate booklets!
This is what I've tried to say, but here no one seems to understand, they treat you like an alien.So I given up.

This is not what you have said. You wished us luck burning our eyes on the 1200 pages of the manual because you think one DVD is better than 1200 pages of technical manual. And I bet the Yamaha MM6 DVD makes you a synthesis expert in one night. Right...

MauroR wrote:So not only we don't have an official video, but they have stopped to print the manuals. Now you have to have a PC to read the manual since printing it costs a lot of money.

The manual is also in the OASYS, so no need for a PC or Mac. And it's context sensitive, so where ever you are, just press help and help you shall get.

MauroR · Post by **MauroR** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:41 pm

sirCombatWombat wrote:
MauroR wrote:
curvebender wrote:I have to admit: I went to a copy shop last year and had the manual printed.

This was:

a) expensive
b) environmentally bad
c) environmentally bad

Turns out I never use it... And I even had them bind the different chapters in separate booklets!
This is what I've tried to say, but here no one seems to understand, they treat you like an alien.So I given up.
This is not what you have said. You wished us luck burning our eyes on the 1200 pages of the manual because you think one DVD is better than 1200 pages of technical manual. And I bet the Yamaha MM6 DVD makes you a synthesis expert in one night. Right...

MauroR wrote:So not only we don't have an official video, but they have stopped to print the manuals. Now you have to have a PC to read the manual since printing it costs a lot of money.
The manual is also in the OASYS, so no need for a PC or Mac. And it's context sensitive, so where ever you are, just press help and help you shall get.

I know that it's in the Oasys, but it's not so comfortable if you're programming. That's whats I mean.