Kronos 76/88 will bite you!

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:19 am

I love doing those hammond slides.

But since I replaced my previous keyboards (including a semi-weighted MIDI controller) I have to do those slides on my weighted keys of my Kronos.

He doesn't really like it:
http://t.co/iTUl0dAt

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:24 am

Ouch!! Nasty..

You need gloves man.

The things we do for the love of music..

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:39 am

That's one of the reasons I bought a 61. And why I use my Hammond XK-1 on stage too!

DocBambs · Post by **DocBambs** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:05 am

I arrived late at a rehearsal recently and just used the Yamaha P80 which I regard as a very good stage piano - it has surprisingly comfortable keys with a good weight even if it's not a perfect match to a real piano. It also has a nice simple Organ sound (jazz organ) which is pretty usable in a band context. I used it a lot that night and my fingers were raw with a small amount of bleeding!

K61 for me (on order, just not delivered).

DB

DennyC · Post by **DennyC** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:17 pm

Love my K61!

1jordyzzz · Post by **1jordyzzz** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:23 pm

thats nasty!
Tips: try to use your bottom hand palm (near the wrist) instead of using your fingers to do a glissando..

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:51 pm

I have worn my wedding ring for about 3 days after my honey moon ... then I forgot to remove it and almost scratched the keys when doing a glissando over the Triton Extreme (I had at that time) .... since then I don't wear the ring ... priority issue

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:31 pm

When I was much younger, and using older keyboards, after some gigs my hands would be bloodied from doing smears.

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:08 pm

It's only a few mm² of skin, but it hurts like hell!

I can no longer do the slides like I'm used to, it hurts because of an open wound

Been doing my slides with my thumb... Seems to work much "safer"!

DocBambs · Post by **DocBambs** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:30 pm

phattbuzz wrote:When I was much younger, and using older keyboards, after some gigs my hands would be bloodied from doing smears.

I remember, about 20 years ago, doing an all night event and spotting at about 3am that the Clavinova (not mine) I was playing had blood all over it before realising that it was mine - I had my X3 and a Trinity too that night and was having to work very hard so just hadn't noticed - the 7.30am slot was a killer...

I think it was a very early Clavinova - possibly mid to late 80's and it had a very flat key action which "took some work".

DB

AMR · Post by **AMR** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:27 pm

Thumb rule: thumb rulez.

Kind Regards,
AMR
http://www.alvaromrocha.com

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Tue May 01, 2012 1:02 am

I can't imagine why anyone would want the RH3 keyboard on such an amazing synthesizer. The piano feel only makes sense on acoustic and electronic pianos. For anything else it is a hindrance. In fact, the bizarre physics on the piano keys is a result of immature technology of the pianoforte. Its plainly ridiculous to expect the force of hitting a key to get a felt hammer to fly up in the air. But then there's generations of piano teachers with their myths on piano touch and telling you its the proper way.

I studied piano for years BTW and immediately thought "yyeesss" when I used a velocity sensitive keyboard for the first time.

B

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Tue May 01, 2012 12:15 pm

LivePsy wrote:I can't imagine why anyone would want the RH3 keyboard on such an amazing synthesizer. The piano feel only makes sense on acoustic and electronic pianos.

I can relate to your oppinion, but I guess it's a matter of being used to a type of keys. I've always chosen weighted keys over keys that feel "cheap and plastic".

Don't really share your oppinion about the RH3 keybed. I don't think I've felt much difference with my Yamaha S90. The music store has much more pianos with a worse keybed imo.

AMR · Post by **AMR** » Tue May 01, 2012 6:47 pm

mathieumaes wrote:
LivePsy wrote:I can't imagine why anyone would want the RH3 keyboard on such an amazing synthesizer. The piano feel only makes sense on acoustic and electronic pianos.
I can relate to your oppinion, but I guess it's a matter of being used to a type of keys. I've always chosen weighted keys over keys that feel "cheap and plastic".

Don't really share your oppinion about the RH3 keybed. I don't think I've felt much difference with my Yamaha S90. The music store has much more pianos with a worse keybed imo.

I actually find the RH3 quite confortable, it's a matter of individual opinion of course, and taste. The velocity curve "9" can achieve quite dramatic playing dinamics, takes some time to master it for synth sounds, I give you that - but then again so does the clutch and brakes on any car you're not used to.

I like the "bounce back" feel of the hammer though sometimes it "mutes" the sound (still haven't fixed my faulty RH3 keybed) when playing softly. What I miss, for the sake of realism, is feeling the keys/body vibrate and tingle (as one does in a piano).

Kind Regards,
AMR
http://www.alvaromrocha.com

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Tue May 01, 2012 10:37 pm

mathieumaes,

I don't like cheap and plastic keys either. Nothing beats the Triton Extreme keyboard. The Kronos 61 (and M3) feel is definitely on the cheap and plastic side. Mine is also quite noisy in that other keys rattle when I release a note.

My point is that a piano board doesn't make sense for synth and non keyboard emulations.

Cheers,
BF