What's the current opinion on OS 1.6.0 ?

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:02 am

I was one of the first that installed 1.6 and never saw any issues or freezing, however I have to see I'm not into heavily programming (of sounds) or using Karma yet.

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Wed May 02, 2012 2:03 am

LivePsy wrote:Have you reloaded the factory PCG just to check its not something corrupt in the banks?

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Yes. PCG, KSC and KGE..

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Wed May 02, 2012 6:06 am

michelkeijzers wrote:I was one of the first that installed 1.6 and never saw any issues or freezing, however I have to see I'm not into heavily programming (of sounds) or using Karma yet.

I also installed 1.6 the day it came out. What's odd, is over the past week or two here and there I started noticing little things, irregularities.
And like I said it's intermittent very strange…

SeedyLee · Post by **SeedyLee** » Wed May 02, 2012 6:21 am

I also installed 1.6 at an early stage, and didn't notice any bugs. What's interesting though is that many of the bugs that have been reported (e.g. KARMA Save bug) are related to functions that aren't listed in the change log.

This makes me suspect that there was more changed in 1.6 than the change log implies.

That been said, overall I find it quite solid, and the ability to move EXs expansions is worth the price of admission alone.

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Wed May 02, 2012 6:49 am

SeedyLee wrote:I also installed 1.6 at an early stage, and didn't notice any bugs. What's interesting though is that many of the bugs that have been reported (e.g. KARMA Save bug) are related to functions that aren't listed in the change log.
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What other bugs are there? I've stated that the MS20 EG2 to HPF, and the load multiple files bugs already existed in 1.5. I don't mind bashing 1.6, but only where there actually is a newly introduced bug

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cobray · Post by **cobray** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:02 pm

I have OS 1.0.7
Is this the earliest version that came out?
So far I'm quite happy with my Kronos. What are the benefits of upgrading my OS? I'm afraid to do anything that might give it bugs becuase I'm not good at sorting that sort of thing out and shipping the Kronos out for repairs is next to impossible from this location.

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:14 pm

I've discovered 3 bugs in 1.6:

BUG 1: The KARMA Save bug:
the workaround works 4 out of 5 times, so my workflow is now selecting a KARMA GE twice, then save, then go to a different patch and back to the patch i just edited, and if then the KARMA GE works fine i start programming the KARMA GE. 4 out of 5 times this works, and the other time after saving the KARMA GE is still wrong (even though i selected it twice).

BUG 2: When i don't use the Kronos for more then a couple of hours then the KARMA engine is messed up. I've checked this by selecting a custom finished program from me, then the KARMA GE plays correctly where i set the note range to 1 octave. Then i leave the KRONOS on that program without touching it for a couple of hours and return and play that same program. This time the Note range plays over more octaves without any modification.

When leaving the Program and returning to the program the KARMA still plays wrong. Then i reboot the Kronos and then that program works fine for several hours. Very strange and reproducable KARMA behaviour. This didn't happen in 1.5.

BUG 3: When i push the kronos in a combi to the limits (voice cpu max and note stealing Max) then sometimes the system stops playing completely and after that the Effects doesn't work correctly anymore for any program and combi. It crackles and behaves very strange. This did work perfectly in 1.5 and was introduced with 1.6.

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Wed May 02, 2012 12:31 pm

Thanks qr. Very helpful information. I don't usually avoid upgrades, but 1.6 doesn't sound right.

Cheers,
B

JPWC · Post by **JPWC** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:54 pm

I've had no issues with 1.6, of course I simply play the instrument and occasionally edit programs/combi's. I have yet to experience any real problems with the Kronos.

I have not spent much time with the sequencer or trying to program Karma on the Kronos. I just pick various combi's or programs and play hours on end.

I have left the Kronos "on" for extended periods and not had any problems. upto 5 hours of idle time.

These are not Fanboy comments, just my experiences.

Now if I want to complain, my Radias' display goes dead often. everything else works fine the display just fizzes out.

My microX won't operate of the supplied power supply, I can run it from a lad powersupply where I measure a current draw of about 15% more than the supplied unit and there is a hot spot on the keyboard, some electrical component problem, but it still works with the lab power supply.

Oh, and the battery in th M1 died. And my Wavestation freaks out occasionally, must reboot.

All these issues are Korg, but Korg still sounds great and tickles my fancy.

Sparker · Post by **Sparker** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:48 pm

Cobray:

The upgrades (as far as I'm aware do the following):

1.5: Adds extra programme banks (U-AA - U-GG) & Class complient Midi device auto-recognition

1.52: Purely for the RH3 keybed replacements on the 73 & 88 key units

1.6: Allows use of the editor and plug-in (& messes with your head)

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:56 pm

Sparker wrote:

1.6: Allows use of the editor and plug-in (& messes with your head)

Sparker you're a riot and in my case you happen to be correct, absolutely.
I hate like hell having to downgrade and am currently thinking about picking up a DVD drive for the restore…
Unfortunately the editor is of no great loss.

Phabius · Post by **Phabius** » Wed May 02, 2012 4:46 pm

I've noticed the MS-20 bug, and it really mess with some of my personal patches (and probably many factory patches as well).

Anything conected to EXT in the Patch Panel behaves the same (does not work) regarding the HPF, not only EG2. Strange enough is that you can notice the correct effect while your turning the EG2/EXT knob while holding a note. But after a new note trigger, the effect is gone.

Another thing I've never managed to make work properly are the Wheel and Switch connections. They don't seem to work the same way the original MS-20 does, or the Legacy Collection software.

I hope 1.6.1 comes soon!

Melodialworks Music · Post by **Melodialworks Music** » Wed May 02, 2012 7:04 pm

So it sounds like at this point in time, best to be using 1.5 (or 1.52 if needed).

Cpilot · Post by **Cpilot** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:50 pm

I've found a few bugs but I've reported them to Korg and they're working on them, so they do pay attention on occasion.

Bryan

Andy Leary · Post by **Andy Leary** » Thu May 03, 2012 6:24 pm

Phabius wrote: Another thing I've never managed to make work properly are the Wheel and Switch connections. They don't seem to work the same way the original MS-20 does, or the Legacy Collection software.

Here's a simple case, starting with an init voice MS-20 program. Say you want Mod wheel to modulate the cutoff. Select the Mod Wh. jack on the Patch Panel page. Down in the lower right corner, it tells you that you have selected wheel source. But, you have to tell it what signal you want to come out that output. By default it's set to Off. Go ahead and select "JS + Y". Now connect the wheel output to the LPF cutoff freq jack by tapping on the Mod wheel jack, then the LPF cutoff freq. jack. Now, you have JS + Y routed to cutoff.

Instead of just hardwiring this Mod Wh. jack to use JS +Y, we let you select any AMS source. It might be nice if we default the selection to JS +Y, though!

Hope that helps!