Kronos rotary sim

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:19 am

.Jens wrote:Hi JP,

sounds interesting. Would you mind sharing your programs as PCG - either here or at www.korgpatches.com ?

Jens

Yes, I would also be interested in this.

JPROBERTLA · Post by **JPROBERTLA** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:01 pm

I would be happy to share; as soon as I figure out how to post them I will.

.Jens · Post by **.Jens** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:41 pm

As I said, at http://www.korgpatches.com you can upload your patches and share them with others.

The only preparation you need is to save your patches as PCG file - if it's more than one sound, the most convenient way would be to copy all sounds you like to share into an otherwise empty bank, go to disk mode, select "Save PCG" from the menu and uncheck everything except the bank containing your programs. Just save it to a thumb drive and upload the resulting PCG.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:28 am

.Jens,
I've never loaded any new sounds into my Kronos so this is why I'm asking. Do I have to specify a destination first before I load sounds or does the Kronos do it automatically? I have upgraded to 1.5 so I obviously have lots of memory slots. I'm always concerned with overwriting something that I don't want to lose.

.Jens · Post by **.Jens** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:58 am

For the moment, you don't actually have to load something into the kronos to share sounds - so there is little to be concerned about.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the procedure of saving and loading PCGs - that's always a good idea to know at least for backups. Once you have a backup PCG, you can always go back and restore everything - that makes editing a lot more fun

For a start, just take a FAT32 USB thumb drive, put it into the back of your kronos. As an exercise, let's create a backup. In disk mode, go to the "save" tab, select your thumb drive:"RDD: $name-of-your-drive$" (below the file browser list). Now, you choose "Save All" from the dropdown menu - and the PCG will be written to the root of the thumb drive (actually you give it a name, first). You can also browse to a different location or create new directories in advance (utility tab), if you like. Quite the same procedure applies to saving a single bank (use "Save PCG" here, instead).

To sort your new organs into an empty bank, you can do that (if there are only a few) one by one by just "write program" and assigning the program to a slot in the bank you like. If the name of the assigned slot is something like "Init...program", you won't lose anything. Sorting and moving programs in batch is a more advanced task - maybe later

Your question regarding the loading of sounds: That's a bit tricky. If you just load a PCG as a whole, it will eventually overwrite the contents you have. That's one more reason to backup regularly. But in the file browser of the kronos, you can dig into the PCG like a folder. So you can also load even single sounds out of huge collections and assign them to a free slot.

As an example: if you browse to "EXAMPLE.PCG/Programs/U-AA" and hit "load", you will be asked "Load bank U-AA to...

", so you are free to decide. Same applies to loading single sounds.

You only have to be careful if you load multiple banks at once, or a PCG file as a whole.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:14 pm

I see, I think. So far I have a lot of my own sounds but they tend to be in the first user banks. As for organ sounds I generally just use one that I put together myself. But thanks for all the help anyway. Tonight is not a good night to get into all of that but this weekend I certainly can.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue May 01, 2012 8:53 am

.Jens wrote: To sort your new organs into an empty bank, you can do that (if there are only a few) one by one by just "write program" and assigning the program to a slot in the bank you like. If the name of the assigned slot is something like "Init...program", you won't lose anything. Sorting and moving programs in batch is a more advanced task - maybe later

Your question regarding the loading of sounds: That's a bit tricky. If you just load a PCG as a whole, it will eventually overwrite the contents you have. That's one more reason to backup regularly. But in the file browser of the kronos, you can dig into the PCG like a folder. So you can also load even single sounds out of huge collections and assign them to a free slot.

To get a better understanding you might read chapter 4 of the PCG Tools manual (which is generic, independent of the application).

And PCG Tools is a quite convenient way to rearrange programs, combis and set list slots.

You can find it in the first page of the link in my signature.

Dniss · Post by **Dniss** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:00 am

bump!

So this was never uploaded to Korgpatches? I'm actually looking for something like this.

petarl · Post by **petarl** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:52 pm

ronnfigg wrote:You can also use the AMS Mixer to set up some exotic routings and combinations of controllers to switch the rotary affect. I have set it up to use the damper pedal and the joystick when using an organ/piano layed combi.

This is exactly what I'd like to do. Please could you explain how?

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:23 pm

petarl wrote:
ronnfigg wrote:You can also use the AMS Mixer to set up some exotic routings and combinations of controllers to switch the rotary affect. I have set it up to use the damper pedal and the joystick when using an organ/piano layed combi.
This is exactly what I'd like to do. Please could you explain how?

It's been a while since I've done it. But I do know that I found the information I needed to do it in the manuals. I'm kinda busy this week so I won't be able to do the research. Searching the PDFs should yield results.

petarl · Post by **petarl** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:25 pm

I've figured out the AMS Mixer settings to make both the damper pedal and mod lever change Leslie speed on the CX3 engine.

The problem is, I don't want to use the Leslie simulation built into the CX3 engine, because IMO the amplifier tone is too fizzy. Instead I like to use a 'dry' CX3 tone through IFX Tube PreAmp Modelling, then IFX Rotary Speaker. This results in a far more gutsy organ sound.

However, when trying to choose the method of changing the IFX Rotary Speaker speed, the AMS mixer 1 / 2 is not listed as an option. Is there any other method of using 2 different controllers (in this case, damper pedal and mod joystick) to control the same parameter?

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Wed May 22, 2013 8:50 pm

I have done precisely what you are trying to do. If I have a few minutes I will try to find the patch and dissect it. I do know you can set it up as an AND/OR function- pedal AND joystick or pedal OR joystick. while you are waiting think about the ramifications of that.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Wed May 22, 2013 9:09 pm

So it looks like using the Rotary IFX doesn't have an option for AMS Mixer 1 or 2 like the CX3 engine rotary does. There might be some kind of a modulation matrix that might do that, but I don't have time to figure it out right now. Have you tried some of the different Amp types in the cx3 engine? take a look at the Amp Type in the Amp/V/C Tab and see if maybe you can adjust some of that to get a less "fizzy" sound. There are EQ settings on the same Tab that might yield some results. I have noticed on CX-3 Organ 888 SW1 (Program Int-A 054) that the high frequencies in the EQ are boosted almost 10 dB. the bottom line is it looks like you're going to have to use the rotary sim in the CX-3 Organ to do what you are wanting to do, as that is what I did to achieve that functionality.

laandodeman · Post by **laandodeman** » Fri May 24, 2013 8:49 am

I am pleasantly surprised by the fact that there is an IFX rotary, I only thought there was the one in the CX3. I didn't realize that, so I will check that out!

Is there really a big difference? I am not all that negative about the rotary in the CX3 itself, but I agree the amp is a bit fizzy. I was checking out the Ventilator but thought it was too expensive, so I hope the IFX will work better.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri May 24, 2013 1:37 pm

I don't think the rotary is any different but you get more options with pre rotary overdrive.