Why is the touch screen so out dated & other Gripes

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Why is the touch screen so out dated & other Gripes

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When i bought this, i had high hopes for the interface, only to find out its not at all much different from the old trinity I owned.

Knob movements are not reflected on the screen for the VAs.

I was expecting the ms 20 to be like the ipad one, sadly its nothing like it.

I feel liked the touch screen is nothing more than a moog source interface where you push a virtual membrane, and then you get 1 slider, up and down buttons or the jog wheel to edit 1 setting at a time. This is a huge let down.

I am really pissed at korg over this.
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Post by popmann »

Maybe you should've tried it first.

Lots of considerations. Environmentally, membrane tech works better in more temperatures and lighting conditions...but, I mean...it's not an iPad. I buy a keyboard for the sounds and keybed feel. You'd rather it have a screen like the Motif, Nord, or Fantom?
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Hexfix93 wrote:I am really pissed at korg over this.
You've been moaning a lot lately.

Sell your Kronos, and get on with it.
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An ipad screen would be much too responsive for most situations (imagine how easy you could enter wrong information by just touching it).

Hexfix, I have to give you some critical feedback as well.
You have entered this forum with a very bad relation between little knowledge on your side (which is natural with a new keyboard) and lots of exaggerated headlines and talk. And you did not show too much understanding and gratefulness towards people who spent time trying to help you.

You may be the centre of your little world, but this forum is not at your disposal, while you obviously neither bother to test a keyboard sufficiently before buying it (I mean, detecting how the screen works days or weeks AFTER buying the Kronos is really ridiculous), nor did you invest enough time to read the manuals BEFORE asking all kinds of stuff here.

Your thread title is simply clueless crap, just like your thread title about KARMA was, and I can only recommed to you to start behaving if you want some help from others. I'm really fed up with your mindless and boasting comments meanwhile.
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Post by curvebender »

+1.

Well put jimknopf.
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Wow, can't have a negative opinion on something?

Karma sucks dude, give me a real seq for midi instead, its useless.

Complex with bad labels on what happens. Its crap, touch screen behaves like a trinity, not and ipad, sorry its a legit opinion.

Its not a deal breaker.

I can put negative comments on synths that I do not like, so what, is the kronos good? YES, its not perfect, but it is good in other ways too. I like the sounds of it, i like the VAs, STR1 is meh but ok, hd1 is great for a rompler, mod 7 is king, don't care about the pianos or the stupid organ church like sounds.

Like the drums too. Love the FX.

HATE THE OUT DATED SCREEN BEHAVIOR AND THE KRAPPY KARMA INTERFACE.

GET OVER IT! Its not perfect.
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Post by curvebender »

You just don't get it, do you?..

It's not your opinions that disturb people, it's your attitude.

And no: your last post didn't help to improve things either.
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I could care less what you think.

I paid a lot of money for it, and i paid for it, so I can bitch all I want about it.

So what. Don't like my attitude, DON'T READ IT.
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Post by SeedyLee »

Don't like my attitude, DON'T READ IT.
Sounds like good advice to me - advice I will be taking on board.
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Post by Yuma »

This is not an official Korg forum though, but a forum where users of Korg products meet eachother. It's supposed to be a constructive community on the internet where likeminded people can help eachother with Korg-related subjects. As far as I understand, this forum isn't meant to "bitch" about products or expressing bad attitude, but to be constructive and helpful towards eachother.
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Post by Scatter »

Hexfix03 more like.
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Post by tiggie_00 »

Ohhh... I think he is comparing it to an Apple Ipad screen.. Yeah those screens are the best OLED technology.. But yeah in that comparison he has ground to complain.. This is 2012 and Korg needs to keep its technology up. Screens, cpus, 64bit age of computing now.. ect ect.. Give us our moneys worth.. If you can buy a beast of a Ipad for 500?? why not a keyboard with like technology for 3000+...

Maybe Korg needs to put external options on its keyboards. Would be nice to see a flush mountable I-PAD dock on the face of a keyboard. Might save them alot of time and trouble with engineering..

Then you could goto a studio or gig that had a like board and just swap your Ipad that would have your customized settings and preferences..
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Post by SeedyLee »

Incidentally, OP, what answer were you expecting to your question "Why is korg kronos's touch screen so out dated and stupid"? Were you hoping that some Korg product users would have inside information on Korg's engineering processes and design decision? Do you somehow think we're responsible? Do you think we can fix it?

Resistive touch screens are different to capacitative ones. For starters, they tend to be higher resolution (which is important for the small on-screen controls), more robust and operate in a wider range of environments. Whilst they're not as "sexy" as capacitative screens, the whole thing is designed to be highly functional.

Personally, I like the current design. A fader is much higher resolution and more precise than any on-screen knob interface I've ever used.

So there, you suckered me in to replying to your whingy rant. There's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
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Post by Hexfix93 »

Well, more than anything I just wish it were better. I really like the product. I just wish it was a tad better in some ways.

My attitude, well, Heh I am kind of a punk. Not everyone here is a jazz, church christian contemporary musician. I make evil music it.

You guys are right though. I really should back off and maybe even leave the forum. I do not fit in here :) Thank satan.
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Post by jimknopf »

I know enough punks and metal heads who are straight but not boasting all the time. And what does musical style have to do with it anyway?

Describing yourself as evil or 'satanic' instead of showing some basic respect, just sounds like another role or cheap pretext to me. And frankly, it is hard to take that kind of comment too serious.
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