Connect Kronos with computer on second ethernet adapter

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:24 pm

Hello,

Just my positif experience connecting the Kronos with a second ethernet connection on one computer.

I bought the apple USB-ethernet adapter (the only one I could find in the Netherlands that was on the Korg list).

But I had just one ethernet connection on my computer for my wired internet.
So I bought a second PCI ethernet adapter and installed this on a free PCI slot. I was afraid two networks on one computer wouldn't work. But it did. I opened the standard file-browser for windows and typed the ftp adres. And it connects!

So I am now downloading the Kawai piano and the CP80 program available on this beautiful forum. Thanks everybody.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:45 pm

keekma wrote: I was afraid two networks on one computer wouldn't work. But it did. I opened the standard file-browser for windows and typed the ftp adres. And it connects!

Out of interest, are you on a PC or a Mac? I tried the same thing, but with another USB ethernet adaptor on the iMac and couldn't get them to talk - apparently I needed to bridge the internal NIC (which gets the IP address from my router) with the USB one... as much as I tried, I couldn't bridge them, so I ended up getting a 100/1000 switch.

All working now though

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:17 pm

I tested mine on a mac with two different network ports and it worked fine without bridgeing it.

What exactly went wrong?

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:36 pm

I'm glad that this approach worked for you. A more general solution is to use a small hardware device called a "router," which allows two or more devices to be connected in a network. If you have a cable or DSL modem, it may already incorporate a router. Standalone, wired-only routers start around US$30, and you may be able to find deals for much less than that.

jeebustrain · Post by **jeebustrain** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:18 pm

danatkorg wrote:I'm glad that this approach worked for you. A more general solution is to use a small hardware device called a "router," which allows two or more devices to be connected in a network. If you have a cable or DSL modem, it may already incorporate a router. Standalone, wired-only routers start around US$30, and you may be able to find deals for much less than that.

technically it's a switch, since you aren't making a media change... Cable routers generally include a built-in switch on the LAN side.

jeebustrain · Post by **jeebustrain** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:19 pm

BobTheDog wrote:I tested mine on a mac with two different network ports and it worked fine without bridgeing it.

What exactly went wrong?

did you manually set the IP address? The only way this will work is if you are either using static IPs on that LAN segment or if your mac is acting as a DHCP server.

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:27 pm

Kronik wrote:
keekma wrote: I was afraid two networks on one computer wouldn't work. But it did. I opened the standard file-browser for windows and typed the ftp adres. And it connects!
Out of interest, are you on a PC or a Mac? I tried the same thing, but with another USB ethernet adaptor on the iMac and couldn't get them to talk - apparently I needed to bridge the internal NIC (which gets the IP address from my router) with the USB one... as much as I tried, I couldn't bridge them, so I ended up getting a 100/1000 switch.

All working now though

I am using a PC with Vista.

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:30 pm

danatkorg wrote:I'm glad that this approach worked for you. A more general solution is to use a small hardware device called a "router," which allows two or more devices to be connected in a network. If you have a cable or DSL modem, it may already incorporate a router. Standalone, wired-only routers start around US$30, and you may be able to find deals for much less than that.

Thanx for your reaction. My router is too far away for a cable connection so I needed another device. I tought of a second router but a PCI ethernet adapter costs 8 USD, so much cheaper and no need for another device with cables to put in my room.

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:32 pm

jeebustrain wrote:
BobTheDog wrote:I tested mine on a mac with two different network ports and it worked fine without bridgeing it.

What exactly went wrong?
did you manually set the IP address? The only way this will work is if you are either using static IPs on that LAN segment or if your mac is acting as a DHCP server.

The Kronos chose its own ip as DHCP was not available to it.

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:45 am

I'm glad this came up, can someone break this down plain and simple for me.
The Apple USB ethernet adapter will be here shortly.

I'm on an iMac and currently hardwired (Preferred and more stable but I can also go wireless for Kronos file management) As you know, iMac only has one ethernet port. What would be the best solution here without having to pull the ethernet out of the iMac and into Kronos, then ultimately turn on my wireless network for this to work? (every time)

I have a Verizon/modem/router upstairs which is hardwired/Wi-Fi to the studio downstairs.
Am I correct that an ethernet splitter will not do the job and that an additional router is the only way? I hope that was clear.. Thanks.

BobTheDog · Post by **BobTheDog** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:20 am

Hi Lou,

I have the apple thingy and it is a base 100 device, so all you really need is a base 100 switch.

something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Unmanag ... 258&sr=1-3

If you want to go WIFI I have used these before http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003 ... 00_s00_i00 you would first plug it into your mac and set it up to access your WIFI, then once it is setup and working you would connect it to the Apple adapter on the Kronos. I have not tested this with the Kronos but have used these with TVs and MacPros before and it they worked fine.

Cheers

Andy

Lou · Post by **Lou** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:37 am

Thanks for the info Bob, I'll check them out.
I had an old Linskys router sitting around but it wants to much info to set up with my network. I just want simple plug and play here if possible..

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:55 am

You only need a switch or hub - not a full blown router.

A router often has a switch and may indeed work 'plug and play' on your network.. Or if the IP is the same as your other router it may conflict. Ideally the IP should be changed to fit within your 'subnet' range of IP addresses. You may also need to set the 'default gateway' to match your actual router's internal IP address.

Cheap switch or hub would be plug-and-play though.

A router is for directing communications between diffent networks with different IP ranges (be it multiple LANs, or the Internet (a WAN) and your single home LAN).

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:19 am

I also am using a switch without a problem.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:53 pm

Well, I tried a different set-up... WiFi on the iMac to my router and a direct connection to the Kronos via the Mac's Ethernet port.

WiFi is fine, I get an IP address via the router's DHCP server and I have an Internet connection, but both the iMac's Ethernet port and the Kronos self assigns seperate IP address.

I've tried assigning manual IP's, subnets etc to both, but to no avail. I've also tried the Mac's "Manage Virtual Interfaces" to create a "New Link Aggregate" (suggested by a Google search), but it's a no-go.

So, after all that, I'm sticking to my 4 port Switch, it just works... no point in making life hard for myself

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