Roli releases Seaboard Rise

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:37 am

ldascanio wrote:It would be great if options like copying one timbre (and IFX) to all other timbres or just a subset of timbres plus options to copy a group of timbres to fill the other timbres with the same group could be also available in your tool in future versions.

This is the kind of logic I'd like to see implemented:

1) Set the COMBI/COMBIS from the list you like to modify. Once done a SETTINGS windows should open to set T and N.
2)Set the number of TIMBRES (T) you like to clone (1-8 with 1 by default)
3) Set the number of times it should be cloned (N) from 1 to 15 (Some logic should be applied here for the max. number available as NxT can never exceed the 16 channels). by default N should be de max. number available.
4) Set the first MIDI channel to use from 1 to (16-N) with the MIDI channel set for the first timbre in the group as default.

Then PCG tools should copy the first T timbres and clone N times that group of timbres as blocks keeping all Timbre settings (layering, splits, transpose, IFX structure of the block (even if they are chained). Modify the MIDI channel for the group to be cloned so all of the timbres in the group share the same channel and then in each group cloned increase the MIDI channel by one (all timbres must share same MIDI channel and all groups must have different MIDI channels but consecutive numbers)
I guess KARMA settings should be initialized and MFX could be kept as they were set in the combi.

Some refinement could include the first TIMBRE to begin from (i.e.you could like to keep the first two timbres with global channel to be managed locally and begin cloning from Timbre 3.

Of course Kronos is not the only sound generator that could be used so it would be great to have this implemented in all the supported instruments.

I have no knowledge for programming but If I can help you with anything else (translation to Spanish or whatever) just let me know.[/quote]

I already made in my development version partly your request; what it can do is copy the first timbre to all other timbres (but I can fairly easy change it to copy a group).

However, the bad news is that it might take quite some time before I can release it, since I'm in a big change which I need to finish .

The IFXs will be copied too but there is no intelligence (meaning the copied timbres will also copy the IFX routing as is).

tomto66 · Post by **tomto66** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:50 pm

A question about sustain pedals - I get the impression that, with the seabord rise connected to the Kronos, the sustain pedal - connected to the Kronos, not to the Rise - does not seem to work right. It's like the polarity of different, but in the Rise dashboard I cannot seem to find a setting to switch the sustain polarity. Anyone else ran into this?

ldascanio · Post by **ldascanio** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:18 pm

tomto66 wrote:A question about sustain pedals - I get the impression that, with the seabord rise connected to the Kronos, the sustain pedal - connected to the Kronos, not to the Rise - does not seem to work right. It's like the polarity of different, but in the Rise dashboard I cannot seem to find a setting to switch the sustain polarity. Anyone else ran into this?

It seems weird as the Roli settings should not affect Kronos behavior when the pedal is connected to Kronos but maybe even if not connected to the Roli the Rise transmit pedal info as always open or always closed and that affects the Kronos.

I'll be able to connect my new Rise to the Kronos next week. I'll check and let you know.

Rgds

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:27 am

A couple links from Roli to help connect to external gear that is class compliant, which the Kronos is. For those who have asked how to connect to the Kronos.

Using Dashboard

Connecting to other USB gear

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:32 am

I received my Roli Rise 49 today. I'm having a problem with the pitch bending. If you set the joystick to +- octave on the Kronos and likewise in Dashboard, the notes only bend a minor third. That really defeats using this controller with the Kronos. Has anyone found a work-around for this?

-phattbuzz

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:50 am

Maybe this will help Phattbuzz.
Midi Messages with Rise

I am not a midi savvy person but as I understand this link the rise will work +/- 12 semitones minimum, set in the dashboard, and then set the Kronos to the same. I have not tired this yet.

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:54 am

I'm not sure what I did to fix the problem but it's fixed now. I had set both the Kronos and Dashboard to +/-12 for pitchbend but for some reason Dashboard and the Roli kept changing back to +/-48. The instructions say to unplug the USB and it should retain the value but that wasn't working. I tried shutting off the Roli while still connected to Dashboard and I think that may have done it but I was trying a lot of different things at the time.

mm-pro · Post by **mm-pro** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:33 am

I have had a bit of trouble with retention of settings as well. I don't really have a work around that is consistent, though I did change it once from the Noise app on an iPad and the controller retained the settings after disconnect.

Roli really needs to allow the saving & recall of different profiles in the Dashboard program.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Fri May 06, 2016 2:20 pm

Just out of curiosity, when you made the settings you hope would have been saved where you using bluetooth to connect to Dashboard or wired in with usb? I wonder if that makes a difference?

mm-pro · Post by **mm-pro** » Fri May 06, 2016 3:12 pm

For me Usb to a MacBook Pro

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:24 pm

Have you tried Roli support? I have had a multitude of questions and submitted them through support. Took a day or two to hear back, because I usually post on a weekend, but they are quick and have been great to work with!

mm-pro · Post by **mm-pro** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:42 pm

Their service is great. Known issue.

tomto66 · Post by **tomto66** » Sat May 07, 2016 8:29 am

@Phatbuzz I had the same pitch bending issue. Set Kronos to -/+12 and ditto on the Rise and it will work correctly. Here is the relevant support page: https://support.roli.com/article/settin ... end-range/

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Sat May 07, 2016 12:12 pm

I think the problem I had had to do with the order of how I set up the Dashboard. Before setting up the MIDI assignment of channels, set up the pitchbend first. When I did this in the correct order it worked correctly and saved to the unit. So reset the Dashboard first so the MIDI assignment are the factory default. I had first set up the Midi Channels so they were using 9-16 and then set the pitchbend to +/-12.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sun May 08, 2016 6:39 am

Have you all found the SEABOARD taking your time away from your other boards? I have the Rise on daily the Arp weekly and my poor Kronos hasn't been on since December! I think tomorrow it will be time to join the two.